Just wondering if anyone could recommend some good reading about modern bait ingredients etc. I find the whole subject fascinating
Rich
Rich
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Modern Bait Book
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 ijakk |
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"modern Barbel Baits & tactics" by John Baker might fit the bill?
I don't use 'his' baits, and I'm not 'into' all this complicated chemists stuff, but it is worth a read  paul4 |
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ijakk |
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Posts: 2101 (30/09/06 15:15) Banned User |
Cheers Paul, but I've already got it and it doesn't really go into the kind of depth that I'm after.
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Damian Kimmins |
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Posts: 790 (30/09/06 16:16) |
Ken Townley did a book for Beekay which might be what you are looking for.
Have a look here. "Whilst developing creativity, also cultivate receptivity.
Retain the mind like that of a child, which flows like running water. When considering any thing, do not lose its opposite." Lao Tzu |
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bgit |
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There were a few mini books around years ago with quite a bit of very useful info. Geoff Kemps was one, SBS did another - both have long gone. Another source of information was various carp and specialist books that had a chapter on bait. Carp Fever by Kevin Maddocks and one of the Hutchy books.
Personally didn't rate the JB one at all. There was a lot of info on one internet site but this has closed. Can deal with most things concerning baits but when amino acid profiles etc etc come into the discussion I tend to glaze over. Think it would be useful for someone to write something on functionality of ingredients - sort of thing that came up recently on pastes and boiling times - ingredients to make things bind, skin, texture etc etc. Cheers Bob |
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ijakk |
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Posts: 2101 (30/09/06 18:58) Banned User |
Yes Bob, that's exactly what I was after really something on the functionality of ingredients I'm guessing that there isn't anything out there along these lines ??
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thejesmonddingo |
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Posts: 441 (30/09/06 21:01) |
Try here members.chello.nl/tmarape...ecipes.htm
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barbeltastic |
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The info on the above site is very useful, however it is worth remembering that many commercial fishmeal type baits are now made from pre-digested fish meals, which make them suitable for winter usage. Sorry but i can't give anymore info on this as I no longer bother with mixing my own recipes.
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bgit |
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Posts: 4690 (01/10/06 09:09)
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Hi Rich,
No not that I've come across - shame. Predigested fishmeal - the stuff resembles cement and is a very good ingredient. It's largely soluble and does add binding 'power' to some mixes. Cheers Bob |
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Wurzel |
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Posts: 1453 (01/10/06 09:16) |
Rob Maylins Tiger Bay also has a bit about making baits including some recipes, but doesnt have any info on amino acid compounds etc. I spent around 15 years making my own baits, but the cost of all the separate ingredients and flavours, plus the time taken to make up baits, combined with the introduction of very high quality frozen ready mades, means that i find it cheaper and easier to buy them. I think its fun if you have the time and money and very satisfying catching on your own baits. I think SBS still supply some bait ingredients although i havent seen any recent adverts.
Wurzel http://www.barbelzone.co.uk/
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Wurzel |
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Posts: 1453 (01/10/06 09:21) |
Havent had a good look, but SBS baits website:
www.sbsbaits.com Wurzel http://www.barbelzone.co.uk/
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bewdley2 |
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Posts: 888 (01/10/06 10:10) |
Hi Rich, Not trying to be funny mate, but I wonder if it could be time for "old fashioned baits to make a come back!
Kindest..Jim..  ...
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spiros |
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Posts: 1268 (01/10/06 11:57) |
Try the bait flavour guru Archie Braddocks website:
www.braddocksbaits.co.uk It is an excellent and funny site read the diary pages! He does a mail order book on falvouring etc if this helps. |
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ijakk |
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Posts: 2101 (01/10/06 18:05) Banned User |
Many thanks all, I have to admit I find rolling and boiling boilies rather tedious but I enjoy make my own pastes and gelatine baits. I've made up quite a few over the years but always with retail base mixes but I've never really understood what parts do what etc, although I'm starting to build up a picture slowly, I'd just like to expand my knowledge in this area.
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morston |
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Posts: 1748 (01/10/06 18:46) |
Rich
I have made my own fishmeal boilies very easily and cheaply...and they are very effective.  Jim Gibbinson's book 'Carp sense' gives some useful recipes and Paul Selman published a recipe similar to 'Big fish mix' (I think) but I can't remember which magazine it was in. The Ken Townley book is useful in parts. Most ingredients are easy to find (mostly from chemists, pet shops and Animal feed suppliers) and you can save a fortune if you have the time and interest. Cahal |
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anangler |
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Posts: 165 (01/10/06 19:21) |
Kempastini's book of baits is worth a read if you can get it? He tells you just what the ingredients are made up of and what to expect when making up your own baits.
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bgit |
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Posts: 4690 (01/10/06 19:48)
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My copy of Kempastini's must come from around 1984. Well worth it at £1.20 post free. Still very relevant now.
Kevin Maddocks Carp Fever had a chapter(s) about baits (written by a young JB?) which contained besides boilies and pastes, gelatine and liquid baits. Cheers Bob |
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morston |
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Posts: 1748 (01/10/06 19:50) |
Forgot about that Bob (KMs book).
...and I have got a copy  Also Hutchy's bait book. Cahal |
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bgit |
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Cahal,
Andy D borrowed my Carp Fever book some months ago. Also have somewhere some of Hutchies written stuff when he was Catchum. Also some interesting stuff from Cotswold (the original Cotswold Bait Ingredients) when they were based in Keynsham near Bristol. Used to pop out there now and again, to chat and get ingredients. As I remember they were into Essential Oils as well. Cheers Bob |
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morston |
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Posts: 1748 (01/10/06 20:00) |
Bob
It is still one of the most useful fishing books ever...Really covers the essentials. Better make sure you get it back...if it is a first edition  Cahal |
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ijakk |
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