P.s I understand that milk protein baits are a definite no no as far as re-freezing goes can anyone tell me why ?
Cheers
Rich
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ijakk |
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I'm a bit confused about frozen boilies, on the one hand in the John Baker book, he says don't ever re-freeze your baits but on the other, I hear from carp anglers and have read in a book recently that it's fine to re-freeze them. Now I've never received frozen bait through the post that has arrived any where near frozen, but I only ever defrost what I need for the day and then I chuck them out after that, but only because of what I have read in the JB book, so I've ended up wasting a lot of bait that probably wasn't necessary. So I was just wondering, what you do with your freezer baits, and if you do chuck them, whats your reasoning behind doing this?
P.s I understand that milk protein baits are a definite no no as far as re-freezing goes can anyone tell me why ? Cheers Rich |
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davhall |
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take a few out,use them and refreeze but only once and that go's for paste as well,for me anyway.
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morston |
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What a surprise.....a bait company recommending you don't refreeze them
These will be the same companies who produce such hype as: "I caught her after prebaiting with 5 kilo's of ******* boilies every night for 3 weeks"....... Just refreeze them. Most fish will eat any old @#%$...that is how they have survived for millions of years. As a heretic I even make my own from my own recipes ....they even fool the odd fish occasionally Cahal |
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D Wingfield |
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I agree with Cahal
Best Regards Dave |
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bgit |
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Some interesting information on freezing and boilies as a starter here:
Freezing If you do a search on 'Freezing Milk Protein Baits' you'll find loads more information. Certainly, years ago when I used to fish for carp and barbel with milk, fishmeal and seed baits I generally refroze them a few times, although I tried to take 'just enough' for the session. I have actually conducted a long term experiments on a fishmeal based bait and it caught despite being quite old (years) and in and out of the freezer a few times. Could depend on ingredients to a certain extent, but some that you purchase are more than likely to have been around in storage for quite a while. Bait companies - well most of them would recommend not to refreeze - or am I being cynical? Hope this helps, Cheers Bob |
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dr barbus |
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Some I refreeze, some I unfreeze and air dry, some go
mouldy, most get used fresh from the freezer or even straight from the kitchen - ever tried warm baits - they work! Some get slung in the river and never bother to refreeze (err post-baiting if you like). Caught Tench, Bream, Carp, Barbel and Chub on all of the above. Even on multiple re-frozen milk proteins and mouldy baits. Yes it breaks those "fresh" bait rules, but catches. Shaun Harrison (Trowell of Nottingham) used to write (carp) articles are air drying frozens and mouldy baits a decade or so ago. Further back Paisley and Co used to harp on about Milks turning after 15 hours out of the freezer. And how a fresh batch of frozens were used to catch. The "Original" boilie articles (Fred Wilton) used to go on about keeping them frozen until ready to use. Pastes are a different matter - I make my own, freeze and use or chuck after each session - but view it as post-baiting! However, I once left some paste in the bottom of my rucksack that it turned into a BIG green furry ball, dropped it into the foot margins and the biggest carp in the lake took it from under my nose within 10 minutes - if only I had a hook attached to it! - Puts simply, if you have no confidence in refrozen baits sling them. - Dr Barbus That which is everybodys business is nobodys business.
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bewdley2 |
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I think the time to worry if your baits still anygood is when you stop getting bites on it..As Cahal say's fish can't afford to be too choosey........Kindest..Jim..
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morston |
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Ey up Jim....Hope you are well
On this topic....there are more than a few authors who have suggested that boilies can be better when they get a bit mouldy. Seems the only way is to do your own experiments. Personally....I always take a small bag of fishmeals and those that are not used are refrozen. I've got boilies in my bait freezer that are 5 years old (at least) and some of them have been refrozen several times...still seem to work though....on barbel and carp. Cahal |
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D Wingfield |
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Quote: Now why does that not surprise me Best Regards Dave |
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morston |
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Quote: I bet they would work just as well in spain Cahal |
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If you think about it most fish will eat anything as their dinner table(river or lakebed) is covered in there own s**t so i don`t think that a bait which has been refrozen a couple of times or not really matters.
In most cases it probably enhances it especially if you stick a drop of dip/flavor into the bag b4 popping them back into the freezer,a lot of people recommend that trick on good ole lunchon meat and by refreezing the meat several times helps to pull all the extra flavor into the bait. Personally i don`t bother no more and have used mistral shelf lifes for five years now,they seem to keep for ages and i keep most of my bait in the boot of the motor which keeps the wife happy as i no longer take up all the freezer space or stink the kitchen out with home made specials. It made me laugh as some well known bait firms always used to say that ready mades/shelf life baits were inferior but all of a sudden they have started making them!! At the end of the day it`s a confidence thing i think once you have found a good bait(i have)then stick with it rather than keep chopping and changing for this years wonder bait. John. |
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