Went to the Barbel Society meeting in Lancashire on Friday listened to a very interesting and entertaing talk by Fred Crouch and one of the things he said was that he uses gallons of hemp and he never cooks it just soaks it overnight anyone else has any thoughts on this,as its a lot less hassle than cooking plus it doesnt upset the family with the smell
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Uncooked Hemp??
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Posts: 4002 (22/10/06 18:15) |
did he mean soaking overnight with hot water in a flask.
keeps from stinking out the kitchen. i use a burner in the shed myself. |
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Posts: 69 (22/10/06 18:24) |
hiya GORDMH
my mate has just give me a carp magazine that he had done with and in that, one of the experts giving advice said that he only ever used hemp that he had covered in boiling water,in a cool box and left to soak 24 hours he also gave some good tips for everday additives i hadn't thought of its a new one on me too but going to try it Phil |
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Posts: 18 (22/10/06 18:42) |
No he said he never cooked it,he said the only reason hemp came to be cooked was so the kernal could split and a small hook could be pushed into the soft white inner for roach fishing.When he cought barbel he gently pushed along its stomach to the vent and the seeds would come out as barbel couldnt digest them cooked or uncooked my own view is that there would be very little leak off of flavour,but last year Angling Times was present when Fred caught his 10,000 barbel so its difficult to knock it
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GORDMH |
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Posts: 18 (22/10/06 19:04) |
Does it germinate? I thought all hemp was treated so it couldnt germinate, as it could be grown into a certain weed (sic) synonymous with very long cigs,also if it did germinate and grow im sure we,d see banks upon banks of strange plants not only hemp but every other particle.it doesn,t happen does it/ not that im advocating not cooking particles but the soaking process is to swell the seed and let it take on water,so as not to do it in a fishes stomach and cause damage as has happened in the past with tiger nuts and carp but as for the cooking have you seen a tiger nut growing in the margins anywhere
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fredrickmore |
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Posts: 704 (22/10/06 19:29) |
Hows it going to germinate in the fishes gut anyway? If they cant digest it it will simply come out the other end.
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leso |
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Posts: 4386 (22/10/06 19:41) |
i can assure you it will germinate
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davhall |
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Posts: 4002 (22/10/06 19:45) |
will it in a human gut then?
i chucked a load of cooked hemp seeds in the back garden last summer and nought happened... 
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Posts: 4399 (22/10/06 19:48) |
Tony
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GORDMH |
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Posts: 18 (22/10/06 19:50) |
Thats exactly what Fred was saying!fish dont have stomachs as we do,wereby food is swallowed and sits in the stomach to be broken down by gastric juices,which in turn allow the body to utilise all the nutrient parts and get rid of whats left,this takes time,a fish on the other hand swallows its food and whilst its passing through its gut it utilises the nutrition,anything that cant be broken down comes out the other end ( a bit like us with sweetcorn) Watch a goldfish eating within a minute or two its getting rid of the waste,He believes that fish like hemp cos its similar to water snails i think they like it cos its usually in plentiful supply and smells good (to them anyway)
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philfishers |
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Posts: 69 (22/10/06 19:54) |
i had my work unit broken into a couple of years ago,
by a cpl of smackheads i presume  before they could get away with a great deal , they were disturbed and fled the funny thing is, i had 40 kilo of hemp in there and they had dragged it to the door ready to steal they must have thought they'd hit jackpot and were going to grow enough 'gear' to last them years   Phil p.s the penny's just dropped Gordon,how the hell are ya  btw Paul gave me the carp mag
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leso |
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Posts: 4386 (22/10/06 19:57) |
hemp does and will germinate in ANY warm dark place
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Darran |
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Posts: 587 (22/10/06 19:58) |
this is coming from a man that believes barbel cannot smell.....?
no offence to him though, he can catch fish. 
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GORDMH |
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Posts: 18 (22/10/06 19:59) |
Leso im sure you,ll find that ALL hemp is treated so it cant grow as it is part of the cannabis family
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leso |
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Posts: 4386 (22/10/06 20:01) |
Gordmh, i know you mean well mate
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philfishers |
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Posts: 69 (22/10/06 20:04) |
Gord go back and find my first post
and see where that got me thing is,i know you like a good discussion i want to say it will germinate just for the sake of it Phil |
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andrewthomas38 |
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Posts: 1118 (22/10/06 20:05) |
I guarantee old Fred that if he leaves a barbel in a plastic bag for a day or two it will pen and ink something rotten!
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GORDMH |
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Posts: 18 (22/10/06 20:11) |
Fine Phil sent you a private msg wasnt sure it was you as I couldnt find the article about the Calder,Im not saying im right about the hemp it was just that i thought id read years ago that all hemp was treated as its part of the cannabis family although this isn,t supposed to be anything like the stuff they smoke,it still can make you feel a bit odd.The point to all this is that The Barbel Society must advocate this method as the talk was given by there representatives Fred Crouch (Presedent) and Steve Pope (Chairman) and I,d never heard of using it this way,like i said in previous postings it begs the question if its ok to prepare this way then surely all the other seed baits (small) can be prepared likewise,by the way if you put any seeds into water i,ve been told they will not germinate,they need soil or other medium to grow
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Posts: 69 (22/10/06 20:15) |
well the only thing i can say is that the hemp i get has a label on it saying that it has been treated and won't germinate
if any one would like proof of this,i'll post photo of label Phil |
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GORDMH |
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Posts: 18 (22/10/06 20:17) |
Leso so you,ve seen hemp growing in the margins of your local river/lake have you??? what about chick pea,black eyed pea,maize,groats,maples,etc the list is endless,the amount of these particle baits thats put into watercourses country wide would surely merit a report in one of the weeklies and i,ve yet to hear anything perhaps you could enlighten me
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