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Jason Rice1	Elipse ok after two years in the shed?	Lead	[-]
Posts: 34 (25/07/06 11:49) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Tags : None Hi there I havent been barbel fishing for two years...recent fatherhood saw to that (which I have discovered is the only thing to top our sport by the way!). Anyway, I was wondering if the Elipse pellets i bought from this site would still be alright to use on the hook? Do they have a limited life? They have been sat in the tubs they were delivered in more or less unopened for the past two years. Cheers Jason
Kev Sp8	Elips	#1	[-]
Posts: 679 (25/07/06 12:08) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I'm not too sure to be honest. I do recall reading somewhere that the oil in them goes rancid after a while and can possibly be harmful to fish. Maybe have a good sniff and try to drill one. I find that they become very brittle after a while in storage.
albert watkinson	Re: Elips	#2	[-]
Posts: 1296 (25/07/06 12:17) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	i have some of the previous seasons elips left.to me they dont smell rancid and look good enough to use.in the bucket you got them in and kept on a cold garage floor they seem to keep for ages.you can bet the barbel have eaten worse than that. albert
Twitcher	Re: Elips	#3	[-]
Posts: 1057 (25/07/06 12:22) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	A shed isn't a great food storage environment, especially in the current heat wave! With Elips I have disposed of them after 12 months, as visibly they went patchy and lighter in colour. I haven't carried out any experiments with old bait; however I'd always have a nagging doubt if I used them. Personally I'd buy a fresh batch, especially when they don't cost the earth. Neil
frost and flood	Re: Elips	#4	[-]
Posts: 419 (25/07/06 12:48) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I'd say the older the better at the moment the new patch of elips supplied by Hinders do not carry anywhere near the amount of oil as previous seasons. When I grind them down for paste you can tell by the amount of gunk left in the grinder, last years batch is thick with it whereas this years are fairly dry & it leaves a much smaller residue. just my observations but I wouldn't get too concerned about shelf life of pellets. I'm still using pellets from last season & catching well - I can't see there being any problem if stored well. Cheers Tom.
Milano	Re: Elips	#5	[-]
Posts: 273 (25/07/06 13:21) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	My Coffee Grinder says the same Tom. Paste has worked well although have left off the fishing for a while. Hinders Elips and shrimp pellets, dust into a paste showed remarkable results for me this season
thetrentrotter	Re: Elips	#6	[-]
Posts: 109 (25/07/06 13:44) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Albert Any idea what they might do to the fish? Like poisoning and making them ill. I bet no research has been done on it. I suppose save the pennies and bung em in with no thought to the fish. $:\$ Trenty
frost and flood	Re: Elips	#7	[-]
Posts: 419 (25/07/06 14:10) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Thetrentrotter. Why do you think there are sell by date's - mainly to get fishermen to replenish stocks on a regular basis. I would hope that if there were dead fish cropping up on sections & the diagnosis was out of date pellet feed, then we'd all think differently. As it is not one stockist or angler has come out to say using pellets stored over a year will damage the fish or worse kill it. Of course you could ask the fish Right Barbel Police out there you have licence to shoot................
albert watkinson	Re: Elips	#8	[-]
Posts: 1296 (25/07/06 14:22) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	for anybody who thinks i am a pauper i have this seasons batch not opened yet.in fact i have not been near the river in the present climate.i regard myself to be a responsible angler and would not use bait which is suspect.in passing keeping bait on a cold floor never did it any harm.ie the old pantry that my grandma had.never a fridge in sight. albert
Andy Frances	Re: Elipse ok after two years in the shed?	#9	[-]
Posts: 2686 (25/07/06 15:46) andy frances board owner Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Hi Jason, The bfw elips do not have an official 'best before' date which is why we don't put anything on the labels. It really does depend on how and where you store them. If stored in an airtight container in a cool dark place i.e in a bfw black bucket in a dark corner of your garage (shed is probably too hot at times), they should be good to use from one season to the next but you can usually tell by smelling them. I wouldn't use them if they smell a bit rancid or acrid (is that the word?). We personally use fresh pellets every season which I suppose is a confidence thing and also reassurance that we are not harming the fish with any pellets that may have gone past their best. Cheers Andy
Jason Rice1	Re: Elipse ok after two years in the shed?	#10	[-]
Posts: 34 (25/07/06 16:03) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Thanks for the feedback. Think I will err on the side of caution and get some new ones!
Milano	Elipse ok after two years in the shed?	#11	[-]
Posts: 273 (25/07/06 16:59) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Wary to enter back into this, but surely the initial concern was about whether confidence could still be held in a bait stored for that amount of time, and that alone. Not another safety issue please guys
albert watkinson	Re: Elipse ok after two years in the shed?	#12	[-]
Posts: 1296 (25/07/06 17:23) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	i have every confidance in the bfw pellets i have bought.they are high quality pellets which i have said on this site before.i have said how i keep them and i have not found that they go off after 12 months.if they stink after a few months they are not being looked after.here endeth the second lesson. albert.
Unregistered(d)	Re: Elipse ok after two years in the shed?	#13	[-]
Posts: 0 (25/07/06 19:48) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Into the second season with my pellets stored in a shed in air tight containers and still as Albert says A OK regards Dave...
sneydbill	Re: Elipse ok after two years in the shed?	#14	[-]
Posts: 1578 (27/07/06 09:11) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Me too Dave they're as good as the day i bought them. And still catching fish too. Bill
thisisjohn	Re: Elipse ok after two years in the shed?	#15	[-]
Posts: 8631 (27/07/06 09:17) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Albert the lesson i need is how to keep fishing as long as you have mate comon tellus yer secret ....j.w ps i will still be using last seasons pellets too
bgit	Re: Elipse ok after two years in the shed?	#16	[-]
Posts: 4690 (27/07/06 10:23) bob gill administrator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Maybe a few things to mention about the life of pellets. The old elips and bfw salips contain a lot of oil (25 to 33%), but they also contain a colouring agent that also acts as a strong antioxidant. This probably extends their usuable life. Purely as an experiment (I usually renew bait stocks every season) I retained some pellets and sealed them up. Every now and again, I'll open the bag up and have a niff - sad but true. Now, before someone leaps on me I'll make it plain that this was/is purely experimental (not fishing), but my elips stock from August 2002 still smells OK. Pellets will lose lots of oil in storage - look in the bottom of a sack/bag/bucket for greasy results and the pellets near the surface loose some of the oiliness and colour. It's best to store in cool conditions, sealed up, out of sunlight to avoid oil loss and oxidation. For the record I keep excess stock in a freezer. My observations are that Halibut pellets tend to go off a lot faster than salmon/trout pellets. Sweeping generalisation but there you go. Cheers Bob
Titus Aducas	Re: Elipse ok after two years in the shed?	#17	[-]
Posts: 2361 (27/07/06 10:24) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Jason, If you are thinking of throwing them away send me a pm and let me know where you live, if you are not to far away and there are plenty of them I will come and pick them up.
albert watkinson	Re: Elipse ok after two years in the shed?	#18	[-]
Posts: 1296 (27/07/06 16:20) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	hello john.nice to see you perky.been fishing john for as long as i remember.i suppose i am lucky.just come off a water and had something like 30 crucians in about two hours on that bait that that i bought last year.i got bored in the end but hey i've got to keep me hand in till the river gets ok to fish.had some big carp on the same bait .the secret is to keep going and go to sleep thinking about the catch. all the best john albert

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