Made from all his own base mix and additives but have not had much luck on them.
Has any one done better than me and my mate and if so how do you rate it.
Or is it just old hat now.
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manu31999 |
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I have been using john Baker boilies paste.
Made from all his own base mix and additives but have not had much luck on them. Has any one done better than me and my mate and if so how do you rate it. Or is it just old hat now. |
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Wurzel |
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Nigel,
I never had any luck with the baker stuff even with a recipe from a well known angler (thanks s.m), although i know a few anglers have done well. However, i have had a lot of success with Hinders Blitz, which although made to a recipe by Shaun Hodges at Hinders, is produced by Glenn at John Baker Baits with Bakers high quality ingredients. Wurzel http://www.barbelzone.co.uk/
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manu31999 |
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Do you ever fish Lacock or Limpley stoke if so many be we can may bump in to each other one day.
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Twitcher |
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Not had much luck on the JB confectionary mixes i.e. Frost and Flood and Krunch. I was a little miffed at how much I forked out for the recommended recipes i.e. 4 liquid additives. Total cost well over £40, and this after a couple of people told me not to bother anyway
I'm not in a position where I can undertake a regular baiting campaign, so my baits need to be fairly instant. In terms of off the shelf mixes, Mainline baits is my preferred option. Neil |
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Wicked Willy |
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Hi guys
I think it's the same as carp. Some mixes and flavours will work on a consistant basis. others will sometimes produce and not others, I mixed up peticular concoxcion of flavours and attractors from the carp company, had 21 runs in a day session, on three occassions. Total cost of the liquids was £70, when they run out, changes bait. Sure I caught, but best was 8 runs for 5 fish.sometimes, 2 takes two fish. went back to the original flarour combo's and 14 runs again. So what will work on say the Thames for barbel really effective will proberly be a good bream bait. The same may on take the occasional fish elsewhere. They are (barbel) wild creatures and have to eat to survive. Just use what you have confidence with. Regards Ray |
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bb king |
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I started off with JB's 'standard' recipes and caught. I have since 'tweaked' to my own recipes and still caught.
Take from that, that the JB 'recipes' are a starter for 10. Lots of people start there and move on to their own which, to give it its terminology, gives it your 'signature'. However, how many signatures there are on all our rivers is anybodies guess Confidence and perserverance are the key elements Gary SKYPE me - bb king or bfw_bbking
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thisisjohn |
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Why not try BFWs own wakas
they work fine for a lot of guys on BFW mate |
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kevin ci |
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Ask yourself onething..........if everyone as in the past posts and again now, say they have not done well on john Baker gear,why is he still going strong and many anglers are still coming back for more?
I think the problem most have is using and applying it correctly in the first place...........I'll say no more! kev |
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sneydbill |
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I have found that the Alar salar flavour works but not the Search 4. However I have had more success on Trigga and el cheepo Monster Crab shelf lifes. But most success of all has come from halips glugged in salmon oil.
I wouldn't again bother buying expensive base mixes as I have discovered that a cheap homemade semolina and fishmeal with a bit of five pints powdered milk bit of marmite bit of curry powder some molasses drop of salmon oil bit of brewers yeast etc, works just as well. I now spend my hard earned, on flavours rather than base mixes. Next investment will be oily chicken flavour to use with my homemade base mix. If you believe that expensive base mixes work best then go ahead. But ask yourself why the ingredients are never listed on the packets. Could it be that they are mostly semolina fishmeal etc etc I might be an old cynic but find it hard to believe that a barbel has any thought processes which enable it to distinguish any more than, YUM YUM this smells like food and I know from experience that it is not dangerous to eat. They don't know how much CSL or Betaine or how many different types of fishmeal or seaweed there are in a mix or that if they eat their spinach they will grow up to be big strong boys and girls or that if they eat their crusts their scales will curl. They may be able to associate the shape of your bait with danger or perhaps the colour far too many barbel have been witnessed exiting a swim rapidly if it contains bright yellow sweetcorn for this to be just a coincidence and i am also fairly certain that certain flavours do become blown. However they will have their day again when Boris's memory becomes dim. I like a T bone because it tastes and smells good and gets my juices going. I eat salad because I am intelligent enough to know it's good for me. lets face it lettuce tastes like c**p. The most intelligent animal I have kept is the pig, far cleverer than any dog I have ever owned. My old pig never turned her nose up at anything which smelled or tasted right. She would never eat onions or tomatoes even tho I kept telling her they were good for her cos of all the vitamin C. She never once bothered to ask me what it was she was eating, anything she didn't like the taste or smell of was left in the trough. If dogs knew what really went into their tin of food would they eat it? Would they care? Would your dog eat prunes if it was constipated? Why do you have to disguise worming tablets in a bit of meat? Dont credit human intelligence into other species they really ain't that clever. If they like the smell or taste and dont associate it with danger they will eat it. A bit like me really I like a vindaloo but I know I will suffer for it the next morning but I eat it all the same cos I like the taste and will worry about the ring of fire tomorrow. If you read the adverts behind some of these new boilie recipes you'd think that the fish have a degree in nutrition. They are only fish! Don't become a bait tart! Concentrate on location and watercraft. Bill |
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bb king |
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Bill,
that has got to be one of your best posts yet Many a true word and all that.... Now, your recipes... care to divulge Gary SKYPE me - bb king or bfw_bbking
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thisisjohn |
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Alar Salar, great flavour, i origionally got this from the sadly departed Keith Sellick of Middlesex angling centre about 25 years ago
in fact keith actually showed me how he mixed it, at J Bakers Prices its a pretty dear product when you see how much halibut oil & salmon oil you can get for the same money Meat Ball is another flavour Keith used to make, Both great flavours based on natural stuff, nothing much new in baits when you dig in far enough, find a cheap new item of flavour or base mix ect, advertise it enough, hand out the freebies to enough successful anglers, get a bit of exposure in the angling press about catches wakas i am impressed with however, we tested these on the wye and they worked for sure as a few here know only too well |
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