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 morefirejules05 |
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Posts: 107 (14/06/06 17:49) |
does anyone know why alot of barbel pellets are high in oil content where as carp pellets are low in oil content,
surely both fish would like the same kinds of pellet or is there something i dont know about? |
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bb king |
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Posts: 2212 (14/06/06 18:56) |
Something I have read recently suggested that 9 out of 10 carp actually preferred the high oil pellets.
 Seriously though, I think you will find that fishery managers call for low oil pellets in preference to high oil. Thats why quite a few commercial only allow the baits they sell on site. That's my take on matters, I might be completely wrong   SKYPE me - bb king or bfw_bbking
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fredrickmore |
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Posts: 704 (14/06/06 19:05) |
Yeah sounds right, i suppose its also to do with the break down the bait, a much higher oil content will take long to break down especially in a river where the temperature is often lower.
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morefirejules05 |
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Posts: 107 (14/06/06 20:30) |
i just found it strange that most of the carp pellets i've found for sale are low oil and most of the barbel pellets are high oil,
would it have anything to do with a river being moving water so more oil gets down stream to attract the fish where as lakes bein still waters dont need as much oil because its not lost in the flow?? |
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morston |
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Posts: 1748 (14/06/06 20:35) |
Most pellets are not designed with either Carp or barbel in mind.
Most were originally designed as trout food and more recently as food for farm bred halibut. Nothing to do with flow. Other pellets started life as animal food and, as far as I know, very few of them live in water. The fact that some of these pellets are attractive to Barbel and Carp is coincidental. Cahal |
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morefirejules05 |
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Posts: 107 (14/06/06 20:39) |
i've seen pelltets by diamite baits that are carp specific and there stated as low oil and i saw another tub of mixed pellets(cant remember the name) in a tackle shop which sed they were for barbel and high in oil content!!coincidence?
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Thenewhat |
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Posts: 149 (14/06/06 20:41) |
Hello Chris as usual I don't know the answer but I do use bloodworm pellets as my instant attractor. They are water not oil based and break down very quickly. Pellets are going to break down quicker in the river than the lake but even so as a general rule the warmer the water the higher the oil content you can use and vice versa. I then like to have various sized oil based pellets in my feed as I like a different breakdown. Matthew.
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morston |
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Posts: 1748 (14/06/06 20:42) |
Do you think that these bait companies actually make the things?
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morefirejules05 |
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Posts: 107 (14/06/06 20:43) |
who makes them then?????
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morston |
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Posts: 1748 (14/06/06 20:47) |
Animal and fish food companies.
try your local pet shop or animal food supplier. Anyone can put a label on a packet of pellets. |
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andrewthomas38 |
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Posts: 1119 (14/06/06 20:47) |
Commercial animal feed companies. Have a sniff around your local one.
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Thenewhat |
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Posts: 149 (14/06/06 20:49) |
Mr Morston, next you will be trying to tell people that our tackle is mass produced in far eastern countries!!!!!
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morefirejules05 |
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Posts: 107 (14/06/06 20:50) |
hhhmm not sure about that one,
i understand that trout pellets are widly available outside the fishing circle but i've never seen bloodworm pellets at my local pet shop |
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morston |
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Posts: 1748 (14/06/06 20:52) |
One reason why Carp anglers use low oil pellets is because of a major panic in the days of the mass use of high oil fishmeal boilies when high oil baits were blamed (rightly or wrongly) for the deaths, from liver disease, of several carp.
Carp will eat high oil, low oil or anything really. The reason pellets are advertised as low oil is to attract carp anglers who do not want to risk harming carp. Cahal |
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morefirejules05 |
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Posts: 107 (14/06/06 20:54) |
ah finally a good answer from u morsten.thank u
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morston |
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Posts: 1748 (14/06/06 20:55) |
Quote:
"Mr Morston, next you will be trying to tell people that our tackle is mass produced in far eastern countries!!!!!" Would I do that? Cahal |
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morefirejules05 |
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Posts: 107 (14/06/06 20:56) |
so whats peoples favourite pellet for catchin barbel?
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Mole |
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Posts: 2281 (14/06/06 21:08) |
Chris the ones they like.
Morston could you explain that answer about carp anglers not wanting to harm the fish. Not being nasty just ignorant, why do high oil based baites harm carp or any other fish? Cancel that, you have explained it earlier, sorry. liver disease any proof? |
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morefirejules05 |
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Posts: 107 (14/06/06 21:10) |
anyone fished kings weir with pellets?
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morston |
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Posts: 1748 (14/06/06 21:15) |
Mole
I'm not sure it ever was proved. High oil fishmeal pellets became very effective ( I believe Premier baits were the popular ones) and widely used years ago and then this story emerged and is still repeated in many carp books. Could have simply been 'mischief making' by rival bait companies . Whatever....High oil baits became linked to harm to carp.Wonder why it does not harm barbel then...or does it? After all they have livers as well. Cahal |
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bb king |
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Posts: 2212 (14/06/06 21:19) |
Quote: Cahal can be accused of being coy, or quiet, but you'll find he has one or two nuggets of information that are enlightening Cahal, how's Steve? He hasn't posted in such a long while. Send him my regards when you next speak. Gary SKYPE me - bb king or bfw_bbking
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