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barbeljoe	Re: Oily Wakas	#41	[-]
Posts: 1678 (06/03/06 13:26) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Hi Neil, *Quote:* Does make you wonder though, as every six months we have a new wonder bait! Its not exactly a wonder bait (i know you meant it jokingly ) just a good bait that i want to use in the long term. Also, i belive it has been around for a few years (oily chicken) so not a new one. With respect....
Barbus Burkus	Dynamite	#42	[-]
Posts: 156 (06/03/06 15:21) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Wonder what DT think of Dynamite Baits' new flavour? Had a quick sniff on their stand but wasn't that impressed. Pallatrax Elixir paste looked interesting but ended up getting 4kgs of something else elsewhere. That should do me until the end of the season. Ed
stuartcourt	Re: Dynamite	#43	[-]
Posts: 414 (06/03/06 17:39) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Kevin the guy who rolls dynamite's boilies used to do the same for DT and it was his favourite flavour so I guess it came about like that. Probably completely different baits though. A mate of mine bought some chicken flavour from DT when I was on it,he put it with a basemix from another company and it smelled completely different to my bait. Never had the really rich smell that the DT base gives it,goes to show its not just a flavour that makes a good bait,its all the other bits.
Andy Davies	Re: Dynamite	#44	[-]
Posts: 3007 (06/03/06 17:47) andy davies administrator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Stuart, your last sentence rings true with my opinion. In fact I reckon with a decent enough bait the flavour is virtually irrelavent. Hence I reckon Joe's idea to buy the base mix and try a different flavour is a goodun.. Andy
barbeljoe	Re: Dynamite	#45	[-]
Posts: 1678 (06/03/06 18:14) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Hi all *Quote:* Never had the really rich smell that the DT base gives it,goes to show its not just a flavour that makes a good bait,its all the other bits. You say all the other bits - i take it by that you mean the base mix and ''other'' powders that you would add..? From reading up on these baits from some of Tony Miles' articles it seems that as long as you are on a high quality base, the flavour is irrelevant (as Andy says) - the flavour is just the smell trigger. This is one of the reasons i am reluctant to use any readymade regardless of its quality as i want to be able to control the amount of flavour in it and have it different to what everyone else will be using. Does anyone think that it would be worthwhile using a higher flavour level, then decreasing it as the fish get more turned on by the bait..? I was thinking of starting at around 3ml of flavour per 6 egg mix - remember, i'm after a long term bait. With respect....
Tribey	Re: Dynamite	#46	[-]
Posts: 252 (06/03/06 18:32) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	*Quote:* Does anyone think that it would be worthwhile using a higher flavour level, then decreasing it as the fish get more turned on by the bait..? I was thinking of starting at around 3ml of flavour per 6 egg mix - remember, i'm after a long term bait. Think this would be a mistake for a long term bait I would use 1ml just to slightly personalise the bait.You state that you have read Tonys findings on flavour levels with HNV baits,well from what I remember reading he found that his results tailed off while Matthews (no added flavour) just got better and better. Chris...
Warren gaunt	bait	#47	[-]
Posts: 81 (06/03/06 18:38) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	If your seriously gonna go this route then do as i said earlier and a few of the other lads have commented, get in touch with Simon or James and they will expertly guide you right through the process of base mixes, additives, enhancers, what not to add, how much to add, flavour levels etc etc. Very helpful guys who know what they are doing.
Warren gaunt	bait	#48	[-]
Posts: 81 (06/03/06 18:44) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Then at the end of the day you'll probably ask for 50k ready rolled cause thats about as good as it gets Sometimes it just aint worth messin with
stuartcourt	Re: bait	#49	[-]
Posts: 414 (06/03/06 19:40) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I really think that people worry to much about this kind of thing(personalising baits).From my experience if you put a decent bait in the right place at the right time you'll catch and if you are lucky enough to keep doing that you'll keep catching,a tiny bit of (personal)flavour in each bait aint gonna make alot of difference short or long term. I tend to just use it as it comes,and try to rely on other things to give me an edge.There are more important factors in consistantly catching barbel than a couple of ml of flavour,bait placement,conditions,location and rigs/tackle all rate higher to me.
Darran	bait importance....	#50	[-]
Posts: 587 (06/03/06 20:06) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	blimey what a nice picture on the homepage today..... anyway, i tend to agree with stu, but dont you think if you fish a pressurized fishery... cant that little factor of bait make the bit of difference to whether you catch or not? i fish a pressurized stretch, that sees many good anglers day in day out and so much bait goes in. im sure most of the time the smallish head of fish cant possibly be hungry.... the same swims get fished most days, by good anglers.. most fish it the same as any other half decent angler, but sometimes someone is just lucky enough to drop onto that fish that decided it fancied a mouthful of bait. on a stretch like the mill, i dont know, but if they are paying that much to fish it, then they must know what they are doing tactic wise. location, and rigs etc... how much can one angler change from the next to determine a good catch rate if its not bait? $:\$
stuartcourt	Re: bait importance....	#51	[-]
Posts: 414 (06/03/06 20:25) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	When fishing pressured venues with the same swims being fished every day the best thing to do is fish areas that never see a bait.When I fish adams I very rarely go in those swims.If you can find fish in areas that get overlooked you'll catch really quickly normally because they feel so confident. You can sit in the swims you describe for days and not get a bite or have a great days sport,its down to luck in this situation.The barbel are in those swims for a reason and it aint to feed,you've always got a chance but you have more chance where they feel comfortable regardless of what bait your using.
Unregistered(d)	Bait importance.	#52	[-]
Posts: 0 (06/03/06 21:23) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	A good bait rarely blows,as all the ingredients are very carefully controlled ,and usually tested on the rivers or lakes before being released to prospective purchasers ,hence field testers. Very good point about flavours and lack of,from Tony Miles findings,on HNV BAITS,and long term use. Any Carp Forum on baits will have happy anglers extolling the virtues of many baits,but luckily there are now plenty available. I could list absolutely loads that will catch you Barbel,but as the thread was a request from Joe about DT Baits Oily Chicken,I dont need too. Suffice to say,when the Anglers of the calibre of Stuart and Warren used it,they caught loads. Sorry Warren,not sure if you are still on it ? I also think that Dr D is quite right,that a another flavour is probably superfluous ,but as has been said the boys at DT will be the best to advise ,as they also do other excellent base mixes and flavours. Wasn't M tech one of the original ones,with the soft centre,and loved by many,Carp and Barbel fans. Ask Bob Hornegold about that one Pons.
Darran	bait	#53	[-]
Posts: 587 (06/03/06 21:29) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	shame they discontinued it.... luckily there were a few shops that had abit left over.....
barbeljoe	Re: Bait importance.	#54	[-]
Posts: 1678 (06/03/06 21:36) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Hi all Many thanks for all the input - really appreciated From what i have read by Stuart, Warren the Pons and another angler on another site, it does seem that it is definately not worth tampering with - and i wont be as you have convinced me not too! The way i thought of it (not sure if i am right ) is that the fish are ''turned on'' by the base mix, so regardless of what flavourings i use, it will still be the same base that they are going for. With respect....
Darran	bait importance...	#55	[-]
Posts: 587 (07/03/06 23:01) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	stu, thats a good point. i do often think that, but for some reason more often that not get drawn to the regular fish producers... pionnering is definatley on the agenda for next season. thats if we have any rain.... most of the swims have no water in, hence fishing the same holding ones all through the winter. sat with my dt baits today, in a "good" swim, not a sniff. from 6am till nearly 8pm... i dont think the cold rain helped, it didnt help me much either.
morston	Re: bait importance...	#56	[-]
Posts: 1748 (08/03/06 19:55) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I've got deja vue again Better go and lie down. Cahal
rodenline	Re: bait importance...	#57	[-]
Posts: 627 (08/03/06 20:10) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Quote, "deja vu again", That alone is enough to give anyone a headache,
ijakk	Re: The new Wonder bait !	#58	[-]
Posts: 2101 (08/03/06 20:11) Banned User Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	www.johnsonrosstackle.co....Baits.html Order them here if you are still having problems joe
barbeljoe	Re: The new Wonder bait !	#59	[-]
Posts: 1678 (08/03/06 20:14) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Hi Rich Thanks for that mate, will be getting some for sure With respect....
dunblanemike	Re: The new Wonder bait !	#60	[-]
Posts: 48 (08/03/06 20:14) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	deja vue indeed p081.ezboard.com/fbarbelf...=215.topic

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