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adi1974	Bait bands, pellets and hair rigs!	Lead	[-]
Posts: 25 (05/01/06 22:09) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Tags : None hey there. I'm just starting to experiment with using pellets and hair rigs and wondered if you people could give some advice. I've been experimenting with various set ups and have tried using a hair rig set up coupled with a rubber bait band to hold a single halibut pellet (15mm) on the hair. What are your opinions on this set up for pellets ? I find it nice and quick to change sizes / flavours / shapes etc and less fiddly than drilling holes and threading / anchoring the hair, especially in cold weather. Do you think that the fish are put off by the slightly obvious transparent bands? Is anyone else having success with this set up? how long do you think the hair should be for using the bait band? (I thread the band through the hair and then back again through the band) Should the bailt be just touching the bend of the hook or away from it? sorry for some basic questions, hair rigs are pretty new to me as I've only just got back into fishing. i'd love to hear some opinions Thanks adi
lesliefisherman	Re: Bait bands, pellets and hair rigs!	#1	[-]
Posts: 2713 (05/01/06 22:28) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	hi,hair or not to hair,inconclusive to me at the moment,ive used pellit on the hair,one and a half inches,and ive used on the hook{bristle rig}but no joy with either at the moment,also i have had no problem drilling them.as i use a 12 hook i will be covering that with a small blob of pellit paste,and a pellit on the hair this year to see if that improves my catches.regards derek.
Scott Winton	Re: Bait bands, pellets and hair rigs!	#2	[-]
Posts: 971 (05/01/06 22:42) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Hi Adi I'd suggest ditching the bait bands and switching over to supergluing the pellets to the hair. If you're using 1 big pellet split it in half and glue it back together, sandwiching the hair between the 2 halves. It's a lot less fiddly and the pellets will stay on for yonks. I've had half a dozen fish on the same bait when they've been going mad. You may find yourself attached to the pellets once or twice but on the whole it's much easier. If you'd rather stick to the bands though, try scoring a line around the pellet for the band to slot into, it'll keep the bait on that bit longer. As for length of hair, I tend to leave between 1/4" and 1/2" between the bend of the hook and the bait. Not sure which pellets you're using but you could do a lot worse than trying the Elips pellets from the BFW shop. The best barbel bait by a country mile IMO. Don't go mad with the loosefeed either, pellets are very filling and you want the fish to be eating your bait, not the 200 odd you chuck in Don't be worried about asking questions on here, and have a look back through the FAQ section too, it's a mine of information. Cheers Scott
Twitcher	Pellets	#3	[-]
Posts: 991 (05/01/06 22:48) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Personally I sandwich two elips pellets to the hair with a bit of super glue, as do many others on here. Its the most reliable way of ensuring the pellets stay on the hair, in my experience. During the summer months, I've caught 4 of 5 Barbel on the same two pellets. With the bigger halibut pellets, you can also cut them in half and then glue back together, again with the hair sandwiched in between. Cheers, Neil
Twitcher	Re: Pellets	#4	[-]
Posts: 991 (05/01/06 22:51) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Looks like Scott beat me to the same advise!
adi1974	Re: Pellets	#5	[-]
Posts: 25 (06/01/06 17:23) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	cheers for all the advice. Adi
mattzzzzzz	Re: Pellets	#6	[-]
Posts: 474 (06/01/06 18:23) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	me too,also sometimes with the bigger halibuts and you are not getting takes just cut two slithers off and superglue them as a sort of scaled down rig. Tie your rigs as a hair rig but without the loop -just a tag end Regards matt
bigfatbloke	Re: Pellets	#7	[-]
Posts: 495 (07/01/06 00:37) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	There is no fixed length for a hair. I think in general Scot is about right. However (he says reaching for his tin hat) I have been targeting particular fish recently and have found chub to be a big nuisance. I am finding that by lengthening the hair to 1 1/2 to 2 inches I get just as many 6 inch pulls (chub bites) but very few hook ups with the rubber lipped little devils. Leaving my carefully prepared barbel swim undisturbed totally $:\$ Seriously I have had fewer fish like this but I have also whacked more than a pound and a half on to my PB Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach that man to fish and he will buy a silly hat. Toodle Pip Kevin.
sneydbill	Re: Pellets	#8	[-]
Posts: 1046 (07/01/06 17:14) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Also try superglueing pellets to short sections of rubber band and just sticking the hook through the rubber band. It works and you can prepare your pellets at home they are convenient to use at night and last a long time. The rubber perishes before the glue gives way. Use the wider flat sectioned rubber bands. I have found this to be just as effective as any hair rig and saves messing about with superglue on the river bank. Bill
bewdley2	Re: Pellets	#9	[-]
Posts: 888 (07/01/06 19:36) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Hi Bill, Just read with interest your strip of rubber band method. Do you think the same thing could be done with a strip of polythene? It occured to me that being a lot thinner the pellett's may stick better, as on occasion's when using the convensional hair I have had probs: with the pellett's not sticking to each other properley. I also thought it maybe less visable....Kindest..Jim.. ....
sneydbill	Re: Pellets	#10	[-]
Posts: 1046 (07/01/06 21:43) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	In answer to your question Jim I don't know if superglue will stick polythene and I would be worried about the hook pulling through it and leaving a pellet attached to a piece of polythene for a barbel to swallow. The elastic band method has never let me down in this respect sometimes after a missed bite the pellet is absent but the piece of elastic always seems to come back. The advantage of this over banded pellet is that you are always certain the hook is not masked. Also you don't very often hook chub unless they throw the bait straight back. I have frequently played a barbel and reused the same bait attached to the rubber, Not sure this would work with polythene Regards Bill
bewdley2	Re: Pellets	#11	[-]
Posts: 888 (07/01/06 21:46) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Fair point's Bill..It was just a thought..Kindest..Jim.. ..
lesliefisherman	Re: Pellets	#12	[-]
Posts: 2713 (07/01/06 21:56) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	hi chaps,i still cant see the problem with drilling them,i use one of those little twist drills from the tackle shops,about £1 i think,then a little bit of bristle in the hair loop.cheers derek.
sneydbill	Re: drilling	#13	[-]
Posts: 1046 (08/01/06 15:05) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	just too time consuming and not as convenient as the method I use. Too fiddly in the dark. Bill
lesliefisherman	Re: drilling	#14	[-]
Posts: 2713 (08/01/06 16:15) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	hi,sorry bill dont fish in the dark.derek.
thisisjohn	Re: drilling	#15	[-]
Posts: 8194 (14/01/06 18:46) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	trouble with elastic is it doesnt behave like a normal hair...j.w john walker
Phil Adams	Re: drilling	#16	[-]
Posts: 555 (14/01/06 21:19) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Hi guys, my first post on here, so please be gentle. I was considering using a 22mm pellet last night on a hair, but the No 8 hook looked so underwhealming compared to the pellet I wondered if I got a bite, how the hook could ever find its way into the fish. I suppose the same would apply to any large sized bait be it meat, cheese or paste. Does a longer hair give you more of a chance, or am I worrying over nothing? And yes, I was drilling. Phil Adams
MarkLatham	Re: drilling	#17	[-]
Posts: 385 (14/01/06 22:27) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I have only tried pellets once, they were the 22mm Dynamite baits Marine Hali Pellets. I didnt drill just used a pellet hair needle which is meant to be able to pierce them without them cracking but it wasn't so successful to say the least. I then made my own bait bands and tried these, got a massive screamer but missed it, tipical ! The bait band was an obvious white and was the average size of most, holding a white band against a brown pellet it was very easy to see and stood out like a sore thumb! BUT its still got me that run so i assume the fish dont really mind maybe, but don't take my word for it. I want to try drilling with an electric drill at home about 25 pellets for a day and see what thats like! Hope i helped! Mark

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