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mikehodgkiss		#21	[-]
Posts: 793 (05/07/08 12:01) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Do they have Tommys down south ?
penbanc	otters	#22	[-]
Posts: 2 (05/07/08 21:54) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I would like nothing better than to be wrong about the otters but the information came from a reliable source. I will not mention names as that is up to the source if they wish to reveal themselves. Graham, the fact you have not seen an otter does not mean they are not there. They are shy animals and are not keen on human contact. Angling pressure could be part of the equation but how does that explain the drastic reduction of barbel on the very prolific Windrush? A combination of factors may be at work but a big decline in Thames area barbel, coinciding with a campaign to reintroduce otters in the area, is ominous to say the least. Still, it is encouraging you have seen some big fish still at Shipton and you are right that Cherwell barbel are good at hiding themselves away so let's try and look at the more positive things. As for the stockings at Cropredy, there used to be a resident barbel in the Little Bourton area years ago. I think the biggest it was caught at was about 8 pounds but I never heard of any other confirmed catches. The water flow seems a bit light to suit barbel in this area don't you think? Clifton may well hold the odd fish and as it is an underfished area a bit of a campaign there could prove interesting.
Red563		#23	[-]
Posts: 84 (08/07/08 18:18) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Mike, I recall catching quite a few on the Gipping in Ipswich in my youth, more so than I did last night! I fished a few likely looking spots on the Cherwell last night and only got tugs from crayfish for my efforts although the music coming across the fields from a live gig at a pub was a welcome distraction. Perhaps the chub and barbel we stimulated into hiding by the vibrations! More realistically, it's going to be a touch campaign to get one out of here before work hauls me back up to Yorkshire permanently. I never thought I'd say it, but it's back up North for some easier fishing. Well, I guess once we've put in the time and effort on a water, it does seem easier. I recall thinking the Yorkshire Ouse was somewhat daunting not so long ago! Steve
mikehodgkiss		#24	[-]
Posts: 807 (08/07/08 18:46) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Yorkshire Ouse with 12 foot on in february , the Cherwell will seem like a stroll in the park !
Born Again Fisher		#25	[-]
Posts: 1336 (08/07/08 19:40) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Steve - I think it's a recording studio. Mike - The Cherwell with 12 foot on would be even more challenging - actually maybe not I could probably fish from my bedroom window - about a mile from the river before you ask. Penbanc - clifton under the bridge looks spot on ... do you know if anyone has the fishing rights? Cheers Graham BAF
Red563		#26	[-]
Posts: 88 (08/07/08 20:03) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Graham, They won't get a deal me thinks! It sounded (IMHO) like pub fare! Clifton is very near to where I stay on my jollies down South! It does look a little bit good doesn't it! It's a lovely part of the world with lots of wildlife too. Whilst walking along the canal the other week, I saw a huge bow wave coming my way. Not a canal boat, swan or goose but a deer swimming along! Now that's unusual to see! Steve
His miserableness		#27	[-]
Posts: 1290 (09/07/08 09:50) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I tell you what Odgkiss, i've fish both more times than i care to remember,and believe me the Ouse is push over compared to the Cherwell, you think not? COME ON DOWN
His miserableness		#28	[-]
Posts: 1291 (09/07/08 10:18) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	And no Tommies mate, Crayfish et em all.
mikehodgkiss		#29	[-]
Posts: 809 (09/07/08 10:33) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Well Simon , as your a northern lad who knows all about ' hard ' rivers like the Yorkshire Ouse and Derwent this Cherwell stream must be a tough one ! I had best come down and give it the 'treatment ' . I have now purchased a couple of well posh high tech reels [ an ABU cardinal 54 ,and a mitchell match ] both of which are only 30 tears old so they should be well up to the task of dealing with monster southern barbel .I will be in touch .PS Do crayfish bite ?
His miserableness		#30	[-]
Posts: 1292 (09/07/08 13:32) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Not as much as Yorkshiremen I hooked my first Ouse Barbel within an hour of my first ever session on it, if you can reciprocate on the Cherwell then i will bow to your superior ability! O.s. map and match reports will be in the post or did you want showing ?
mikehodgkiss		#31	[-]
Posts: 810 (09/07/08 13:47) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Yes please Simon , Take me down,show me where to go / how to catch em and I will have a crack at it , can I travel that far south without a passport ? Last Edited By: mikehodgkiss 09/07/08 13:49. Edited 1 times.
His miserableness		#32	[-]
Posts: 1293 (09/07/08 14:26) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	You can yes, main travel advice would be to bring yer own beer, or go into lager training 54s eh? very posh.
mikehodgkiss		#33	[-]
Posts: 811 (09/07/08 15:14) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	No training required Simon ., that bit I'm Ok with I will be in touch
His miserableness		#34	[-]
Posts: 1294 (09/07/08 17:01) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	OK
penbanc	clifton	#35	[-]
Posts: 3 (09/07/08 20:18) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Graham- not sure, it used to be Banbury but I don't know if they still have the fishing. Just give it a go, it's unusual for anyone to bother you for just fishing. It isn't Adams Mill ( I presume!) A friend lost either a barbel or a carp there a few years ago, not at the bridge but further down. Have a look, the swim will jump out at you. Often a sign there saying beware of the bull so check the field out first. While it's unlikely you will be told not to fish the same cannot be said of Daventry Road area. A fiercely unfriendly farmer used to stomp these fields (shotgun and all!) and wants some ridiculous figures of money, £10 or more a day for some pretty hit and miss fishing. I don't know if the situation is the same now but I am in no hurry to find out! A third of the cost of a Birmingham annual ticket for one day on the upper Cherwell! I don't think so.
Born Again Fisher	Clifton	#36	[-]
Posts: 1338 (17/07/08 17:53) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Well - I tried out a couple of new spots last night ... had an interesting evening to say the least ... First spot in the Banbury area was pretty unfishable from my bank will have to give it another try from the other side sometime. At Clifton headed downstream ... fished in one spot with some cray activity and no real interest. Picked up my stuff to walk further downstream only for a rather inquisitive, rather large Bullock to charge me (with his mates offering moral support from a safe distance) took me a good 10 minutes of heart stopping action to face him down - I was pretty close to jumping in the river and making a dash for the far bank at one point but eventually they calmed down and went back to chewing the cud. I didn't dare walk past them to try out any swims further down so made my way back to the road. Stopped off in a swim just downstream from where the mill stream rejoins the main river - a bit of extra flow made the spot look very inviting - decided to stay put until dark so I could keep an eye on the bullock herd. Again, lots of Cray activity and no bites but there were some decent fish crashing out from time to time - probably chub and I saw my first Cherwell otter - looked a youngish animal to me - a lot smaller than the dog otter I used to see regularly on the Lower Severn. Well I know a lot of you will be depressed but I'm happy for a few fish to go astray to have these beautiful creatures established in their rightful home - it will all balance itself out in the end. I reckon the 100 yards or so of river below the mill stream confluence is worth a shot if your preprared to put in the effort. Don't know if I'm brave enough to chance the bullocks though. Cheers Graham BAF
penbanc	Clifton	#37	[-]
Posts: 5 (17/07/08 20:23) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Cattle are a pain and Clifton always has a few as does Somerton. One of the worst problems is them treading on your gear if you move to bait up a swim. Bullocks are seldom dangerous but looks like Graham found a lively one. Could be a rig, that is a bullock who hasn't been castrated properly and they can be dodgy. Somerton crossing used to have (may still do) a Jersey bull in the field. These can be very dangerous, as can all dairy bulls and this character made no secret of his dislike of anglers! It always pays to be careful and time checking a field of cattle out for a bull is never wasted time, it may save your life.
AdamF	Clifton	#38	[-]
Posts: 8 (17/07/08 22:14) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I live in Clifton and in the last four years there I have seen one double figure barbel (the only one), carp over twenty, dog otter, and mink in abundance. But the biggest problem is the signals. Tasty but very (very) annoying! I had one common at 7.8 and chub to 5 but there are some very plump dace and roach, and I'm sure I had a huge bleak on before I lost it.....the stretch between Somerton and Clifton really looks the business if you are prepared to walk for several miles to somewhere that hasn't seen a bait in years and may have one or two fish in it, which you can't see anyway because of the cloudy water. Personally I love it.
AdamF		#39	[-]
Posts: 9 (18/07/08 14:50) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Oh yes, and I have seen a couple of trout as well.
penbanc	onclift	#40	[-]
Posts: 6 (21/07/08 18:19) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Not surprised you had a lot of trouble with signals at Clifton. It's near Somerton and Bessamers, the upstream part of Somerton, is probably the worst signal area I have ever fished.I have even had them take bread in January.

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