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harry chubb	casting to torchlight	Lead	[-]
Posts: 250 (19/05/08 09:31) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Tags : None I dare say everyone knows what I,m on about here. A lot of anglers after dark shine there headtorches on to the river and cast directly into the spot lit up(normally far bank). I,v always tried to avoid light over the river but after spotting one barbel celeb. doing it last season with a really bright beam I,m wondering how much damage it does.I dare say this isn,t the first post on this, but what opinions out there ATB Harry.
dik30		#1	[-]
Posts: 186 (19/05/08 10:03) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	i've noticed that fish in my garden pond and in lake margins seem unaware of torchlight, having said that i use mine as little as possible in order to preserve my "night vision", cant say i'd be overjoyed if nearby anglers were shining their torches on or across the river and thereby spoiling my night vision though never needed a light to cast if it were long range i would use line marker/clip
kenjiblaster25		#2	[-]
Posts: 1860 (19/05/08 13:49) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	there are headtorches with a red led option, there is discussion about them in the archives. I have one and for the life of me I can't remember the name but the point being is that I think the discussion concludes that the fish can't see the red light. maybe ever-ready make them, dunno!
Gaskes		#3	[-]
Posts: 325 (19/05/08 13:56) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I use a petzel head torch with a red filter - very good. I don't use it to cast though - shining torches across weirs does not seem to stop others from catching though. Dave Last Edited By: Gaskes 19/05/08 13:59. Edited 1 times.
Ian Grant		#4	[-]
Posts: 299 (19/05/08 14:23) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Well i don't think it will help you catch fish Harry, but like you say i wonder just how much damage it does, i've caught minutes after casting out with torchlight on the water, i expect everyone has. I just try to keep it to a minimum, one of those necessary evils that you have to do, ending up in the bushes is going to be worse if you have to pull for a break. Regards Ian.
New Temer		#5	[-]
Posts: 753 (19/05/08 20:27) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I use this one.........2 white and 1 red led http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/3409907/Trail/searchtext%3ETORCH.htm
harry chubb		#6	[-]
Posts: 251 (19/05/08 22:09) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Ian so you,r saying you don,t think it spooks the swim to the extent of ruining it for the evening. I,v always tried to keep light of the river.For instance after rebaiting give my eyes 5mins to adjust before casting but as you say it,s tricky in a tight cast and I,d rather use my headlight if I was confident it wouldn,t spook the swim.Most of the anglers I,v seen have used there white light rather than the infa red probably I would think because it,s more visible. To be honest it don,t feel right to me to be shining lights on rivers at night. ATB Harry.
Ian Grant		#7	[-]
Posts: 300 (19/05/08 23:59) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Hi Harry, I was basically saying that whilst it's not something that i like doing, and for sure it won't help you catch, it's better to do it than not if it means not ending up in bushes etc with all the disturbance that will create, sometimes there's no need at all to use a torch such as in bright moonlight ( there's another subject ) or if you're fishing nearside bank or midstream, i only turn my light on if i absolutly have to, like you i don't feel comfortable with it on especially if it means shineing it on the water, but sometimes you can't avoid it, unless you avoid casting to an area where using a light is necessary. But !! as i've said there have been numerous occasions over the years when i've caught minutes after recasting, and having shone the light on the water, but even so i err on the side of caution and only turn my light on if i feel i really have to. I do feel more confident - safer is probably a better word when the water is well coloured up . As to whether it spooks fish or not i'm not sure, if i'm pushed to give an answer i would say yes it probably would, there must be times i think when we just get away with it, but how many times i wonder ( and we'll never know ) have i / we recast using torchlight and a big one was sitting in the swim, that has been spooked by a bright light and just sidled off. The torch i use has a 3 led setting 1,2,& 3, and a halogen bulb as well, i only ever use 1 led when fishing, it's plenty bright enough, the others only when walking back to the car, or at least well away from the water. Regards Ian.
Tom R		#8	[-]
Posts: 2258 (20/05/08 01:46) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	If you switch the lights off you see better, try it, it works.
Pete Sharpe		#9	[-]
Posts: 537 (20/05/08 07:51) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	If you need to use a torch to cast at night, you shouldn't be going night fishing at all. English as tuppence, changeless as canal water, nestling in green nowhere, armoured and effete, bold flag-bearer, lotus-fed Miss Havishambling, hermit-crab, tight-fist, eremite, feudal still, reactionary Rawlinson End.
Titus Aducas		#10	[-]
Posts: 1451 (20/05/08 08:47) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I have to use a torch for rebaiting because I can't see what I'm doing without it, I always turn it off for casting though. If I'm casting to a feature I normally find the length and mark the line, (stop knot or tape, whatever you prefer), I can then clip up and cast with confidence to a pre chosen far bank, or even horizon, profile and know that when the line hits the clip I'm in the right area, don't forget to unclip after casting though.. P.S. Imo comments like, " If you need to use a torch to cast at night, you shouldn't be going night fishing at all.", are not helpful. Not everyone is gifted with 20/20 night vision and if using a torch helps then use a torch. In my experience of fishing with an old boy who always used the most powerful lamp he could lay his hands on it makes little difference to your results. The fish in my pond also seem to ignore a torch beam and after reading about it in some article or other I have deliberately shone a torch into the water to locate fish, (try it on your local canal if it's clear), and after locating them then gone on to catch them. Imo it's a bit like boats, it bothers the anglers more than the fish. However, if you do need an excuse for not catching then I suppose, "The noddy in the next peg was waving a bloody great torch around all night", is as good as any other. Last Edited By: Titus Aducas 20/05/08 08:51. Edited 1 times.

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