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Posts: 831 (05/02/08 14:30) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Tags : None Interesting item in the AT today. A big stour fish caught after , I quote,....."A frenetic midnight battle"....... I know its past mid winter but we are a long way off the Land of the Midnight Sun......Sunrise down here about 8.00am.....but Hey....looks better with a rising sun glistening off its flanks.... So the question is...where was it for at least 8 hours??? Maybe a condition of its release was that it promised to come back at 1st light for a photocall. Just take the photo in the dark, Mr Harman and be overjoyed you have caught a fish of a lifetime, without couping it up for 8 hours! Also AT.....did you have to add the "midnight battle" bit.....we would have been none the wiser!! A fine example set yet again to any bivvy dwelling aspiring carbeller. DT
skidlid56		#1	[-]
Posts: 2225 (05/02/08 14:53) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	DT Not dissagreeing with your post,as i dont think keeping a fish sacked for 8 hours is such a good idea. But perhaps he was alone,and waited till dawn for someone to photograph. Or does a fish sacked properly,come to anymore harm,than, it would being photographed on self take,in pitch black,on wet slippery banks?????????? Dunno really. regards Howard
barbelmonger		#2	[-]
Posts: 16 (05/02/08 17:47) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Agree with DT. Some very interesting points from Howard though, a good read. The Monger
simon irvine	sacking	#3	[-]
Posts: 190 (05/02/08 18:52) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	a good question i think with modern cameras a good quality shot can be taken at anytime is retaining a fish a bad thing? it does if done correctly give the fish time to recover but the lenghth of time is questionable. but i know of 1 example where sacking of a fish overnight saved its life and the fish weighed 15lb 2oz and was caught by a guy carp fishing on the trent he returned it instantly and the fish went belly up and started drifting down the river luckly there was a team practicing for a national match and using a long net handle we managed to catch the fish after wading out to our chests we initialy rested it facing up stream in a landing net then it went into a carp sack it stayed there a good 3 or 4 hrs and made a full recovery the same fish has been caught since i would say the sack did it no harm. would i do it for a trophy shot proberly not if you can`t do a self portait then a shot on the unhooking mat would do cheers si
paulmatty		#4	[-]
Posts: 1110 (05/02/08 21:38) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Hi all, Got to agree with Huw here ! Is a fish's life worth a pic ? If I were without someone less than an hour away, then a pic on the mat would have to do (AND I would feel uncomfortable then !). With all due respect Simon, I feel most reasonably experience Barbel anglers would rest the fish in the landing net before returning it anyhow !? BUT I agree with the circunstance you mention........... To advocate putting a Barbel straight in a sack or keepnet without proper recovery, would be as bad as returning it straight away ! My routine tends to be :- Net fish, rest fish in net whilst I ready the scales sling etc. Weigh fish, back in net for a rest.........Back out for re-weigh or pic if it's a good 'un, back in net for rest again, then and only then release if the fish seems strong enough ! Had one float belly up when I was young and naive, not an experience i'd like to repeat ! Fortunately we save said fish........... BUT going back to the original subject.......Fast flood ? No way of retaining a fish for that amount of time safely ! Cheers Paul M.......... Last Edited By: paulmatty 05/02/08 22:26. Edited 1 times.
mwelsh3		#5	[-]
Posts: 1078 (05/02/08 22:08) Administrator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Difficult for someone like me, that hasn't - nor will - read the article to pass judgement. I have to say though that I'm failing to see the link between the "midnight battle" and "bivvy dwelling aspiring carbelers" - but I'm probably missing the point ... ATB Mike
paulmatty		#6	[-]
Posts: 1111 (05/02/08 22:32) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Mike, I think Huw was trying to say that it doesn't set a good example to the MANY people who are crossing over from the cut-throat world of Carp angling to our favoured quarry ! Not a dig at the 'Carbellers ' amongst us ! (Think a fair few of us do a bit of that on big rivers/night sessions.........) Cheers Paul M..........
Instant Korma		#7	[-]
Posts: 12 (06/02/08 07:37) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Carry and use a tripod/bankstick with a Gardner camera adaptor.Together with a flip round screen digi camera you,re sorted. And also NOBODY but you will be any the wiser of your location. Your Signature ... "......Instant korma's gonna get yer......" John Lennon.
Jonny Fairweather		#8	[-]
Posts: 293 (06/02/08 09:54) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I have to agree, 8 hours in a sack, net or tube isn't about to do the fish much good. It doesn't take that long for them to recover, except for possibly very exceptional circumstances, such as 90 degrees in the summer.
sneakypeter		#9	[-]
Posts: 367 (07/02/08 23:50) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I have to agree with the previous posters, sacking a fish for 8 hours+ is totally unnecessary, if your after trophy shots, then get equiped to take them, day or night, as soon as possible, its not rocket science! Look after the fish, not your ego!!!!!! Peter
RollingPinBoy		#10	[-]
Posts: 1372 (09/02/08 05:09) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I have also heard that Dave had a mate with him at the time of capture...Ray "They're bigger than me but they keep my ears warm" www.barbelshack.com

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