one of those is it,a mate of a mate of the postman told me,hmmmm sounds a bit fishy to me if you pardon the pun.i shall contact bm in the next few days and ask them their view of this.after all,if your not in the nfa then your a heathen by the sounds of it.
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River Dane
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 iballpaulibiza |
Re: BM | ||
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Posts: 20 (08/07/07 20:35) |
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wigan stu |
Re: BM | ||
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Posts: 1315 (08/07/07 21:39) |
CA went in before warringtons lease had expired , as has allready been stated, that aint cricket , but what do they care?
i have given you an example, not hard cold evidence as that is nye on impossible , just common knowledge , now its your turn eyeball paul , all i want to do is do it !!!!  |
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catnjeff |
Re: BM | ||
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Posts: 277 (08/07/07 22:47) |
Barbel fishing is becoming like carp fishing went 10 years or so ago. There is a supply and demand situation going on which, i personally am not happy with but there are too many people targetting big fish these days. I know of people who are prepared to pay up to £40 per day to fish for 40lb plus carp and the money most of us pay to fish for barbel is a pittance in comparison, people queuing for swims!!! Named fish?. It's a bit like premiership football, sooner or later the bottom will surely drop out with football clubs charging upwards of £50 to watch 90 minutes of football.If a fishing club wishes to purchase a strech of water then surely they talk to the person who owns the water and not the club currently leasing that strech? I think it would be then up to the owner to talk to all relevant parties to come up with the going rate(or not)?
Just look what happened to Adams Mill on the ouse and that, i'm afraid to say is the future of barbel fishing in this country. Loads of syndicates, limited membership, waiting lists of 10 years plus. Enjoy it while we can. Whilst we can all make out we're sweetness and light , i can guarantee that if bm charged £*** per year then there would be no shortage of takers. That, as they say, is life(unfortunately). Regards, Jeff. |
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albert watkinson |
Re: Manor Farm | ||
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Posts: 1295 (09/07/07 07:31) |
in passing the water that everybody is fighting over i used to fish for 5 shillings a day.if the farmer was not there it was a freebie.funny old game.
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chevin |
Back to the fish | ||
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Posts: 125 (09/07/07 11:26) |
Fished Saturday, river 2 foot up, fish on holiday......
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Danefisher |
Re: River Dane | ||
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Posts: 344 (09/07/07 12:10) |
I think Warren may have hit the whole issue firmly on the head some time back when he stated "BM are are a business". Quite probably by the sound of it. I prefer to think I belong to CLUBS. I think it is a question of attitude.
Btw I have always been led to believe PAAS behave impeccably when it comes to negotiating fishing rights. |
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stickleback2 |
Re: River Dane | ||
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Posts: 159 (09/07/07 12:35) |
your dead right there . before any water is taken on we check with the previous clubs .and if they still want to keep the water we dont get involved. the only time we take other club waters on is if they state they are releasing it for what ever reason .i dread to think what would happen if any other club started to bid on our waters without checking if we had released it. i should think we would bid on all there waters and i know who would win
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dr barbus |
Anti PAAS | ||
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Posts: 1639 (09/07/07 12:45) |
What gives with the anti PAAS?
£85 a year for that list of (200+) waters is a snip. Prime river fishing the length of the west side of the pennines plus lakes, ponds and pools. So there is a waiting list - that limits the numbers and means that with a very few exceptions no water is really "busy". They do not allow Day Tickets. They expel members for litter/cans/bottles etc. They tend to respect the waters they own or lease and have good reputation with landowners who often offer PAAS leases. They are a NFA club and so respect that agreement on lease contracting. If you want deserted rivers or lakes PAAS offers that. If you more reliable slightly more pressurised stretches PAAS offer that. Want specimen fish of all species PAAS offer that. |
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HarryHeave |
Meanwhile back to actually fishing on the Dane... | ||
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Posts: 26 (09/07/07 13:27) |
Managed to get some fishing in on the Warrington stretch on Saturday three bites equated to one Chub. Bugger! Still the Kingfishers and varied wildlife made a fantastic session.
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HarryHeave |
PAAS - I'm on the waiting list. | ||
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Posts: 26 (09/07/07 13:47) |
and further more I'm looking forward to joining. Meanwhile I'm fishing the WAA stretch and will be fishing the BM stretches. Does anyone have any recent catch reports from these sections which they are willing to talk about?
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ian sewell |
Re: PAAS - I'm on the waiting list. | ||
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Posts: 45 (09/07/07 16:09) |
harry
come and enjoy the fishing with bay malton we are all scumbags according to those wearing the paas tinted spectacles. if you want guilt free fishing join paas as they have never done anything slightly dodgy ever,they are true bastions of all fisheries,members of the nfa and above all god fearing. don't make me laugh.  harry i won't be on the river til later in the week so can't let you know how it's fishing,sorry. |
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ian sewell |
Re: PAAS - I'm on the waiting list. | ||
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Posts: 45 (09/07/07 16:58) |
oh and by the way harry,
all the things that dr.barbus mentioned are also provided by bay malton immediately and for a smidgeon of the cost. |
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iballpaulibiza |
Re: PAAS - I'm on the waiting list. | ||
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Posts: 20 (09/07/07 17:08) |
wigan stu,i had a reply from the secretary of bm today regarding manor farm and was told that at the time,no-one held a lease on the water and the owner invited bm to tender for it along with other clubs.hardly underhand wouldnt you agree!
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ian sewell |
Re: PAAS - I'm on the waiting list. | ||
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Posts: 45 (09/07/07 17:28) |
that can't be true iball,what with bm not being in the nfa there must of been some underhand dealings somewhere
 oh dear me,over to the paas adoration society can we have an apology for all this rumour and character defamation of us the humble angler/bay malton member? |
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dr barbus |
PAAS and BM | ||
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Posts: 1639 (09/07/07 18:10) |
Ian
I dont want to get in a tit-for-tat but... I have never said anything about BM, period. And yes there are some things about PAAS that could be changed; I never said they were perfect. -- Dr Barbus
Luck defined is when preparation meets opportunity |
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ian sewell |
Re: PAAS and BM | ||
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Posts: 45 (09/07/07 18:23) |
dr barbus,
i don't want to row with anyone either but some people are way off the mark over whats happened at manor farm,i have just read an e-mail concerning the said matter and can assure you that bay malton have acted with the utmost integrity. it's the individuals choice to join whatever club they want too and everyone should respect that choice. i wish all dane anglers a good season whatever stretch you fish tight lines ian |
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dr barbus |
Re: PAAS and BM | ||
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Posts: 1639 (09/07/07 18:40) |
Ian
I have been following the Manor Farm saga. I used to fish it when I lived in Cheshire/Shropshire but dropped my Lymm ticket some years back. If as it now seems that the new owners put the fishing up for tender as it their right, then Lymm have nothing to be aggrieved about and BM have acted properly; as far as I know. The over-reaction and name calling is out of hand and symptomatic of an emotional response to incomplete information - happens all the time in all walks of life. Not pleasant to see it on this thread though. Tight Lines... -- Dr Barbus
Luck defined is when preparation meets opportunity |
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stickleback2 |
Re: PAAS and BM | ||
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Posts: 159 (09/07/07 18:44) |
you dont tender along with other clubs even if the farmer invites you to . if we all did that we would fall into the trap of tarmers getting over the ammount that the water is worth. the code of practice is first check with the present club . find out the info and if the club wishes to continue leaseing the water dont put in a hostile bid . in act dont bid at all.if this is what bay malton have done then its digracful and if they start that with paas then they will come a cropper . also if they have fallen into that trap then they are not an honerable club .
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iballpaulibiza |
Re: PAAS and BM | ||
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Posts: 20 (09/07/07 19:05) |
get your facts right stickleback before you come on here shouting,nobody held the lease so it was tendered out.bm have not acted in an underhand way.lymm did not want to commit as the farm is up for sale,fair enough so they let the lease go.likewise the owners probably want someone on the water paying rent as any sale of the land could take years.
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stickleback2 |
Re: PAAS and BM | ||
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Posts: 159 (09/07/07 20:22) |
my dear sir i do have facts right as i ve not acused anyone of any ill doing yet . i also know the facts re the sale . and we would not bid for this water under the circumstances . it is up to the new owner when its sold to give the leaseing club an opertunity to renew the lease .now if there is a dispute re the rent cost from the new owner we would still not bid against the present club. if we did this it would put prices up. its a matter of honour amounst clubs not to do this sort of thing . i dont shout mate . i think i know a bit more about these things than yourself
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