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BarbusFan |
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I have been thinking about buying some chest waders. What are the best type to get. Stocking feet or with boots. And if you buy stocking feet do you have to get boots the next size up, or do they allow for that. Any help would be great.
Thanks , Michael. |
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Paul Boote |
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here's my sixpennyworth on chesties.
Go for stockingfoots: easier to get on and off, offering you the choice of just what footwear you're going to put into the water / walk about in. Wading boots: order one size larger than your shoe size, remebering too that an American sizes are one size smaller than ours - e.g. I take a size-8 shoe, so when I buying a pair of Simms boots the other year, I ordered US size 10 (the size on the box) which is equivalent to a UK size 9. About soles on boots. Felt slips least on rocks and gravel, yet will send you a. over t. on bankside grass - put a number of screw-in metal studs into the felt soles if they don't already have them. If yiou fishing mainly gravel-bedded streams, then rubber cleated soles will do, which will be fine for bankside walking plus up-hill-and-down dale stuff, too. I have worn lots of boots and shoes with my waders over the years - trainers, old walking boots, purpose-designed wading boots... You'll find that you will probably need to wear a thick sock or neoprene bootee over the stocking-foot - to get a good fit, and to stop the stocking-foot from wearing through after a lot of walking, prolongs the life of the wader quite a bit: I have one pair of stocking-foots bought in 1987 that are still going (though more than just a little patched)! |
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b115ter |
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hi. just purchased a set of snowbee xs breathable bootfoot chesties. they were last years in the sale direct from snowbee. they had quite a few left at £80 instead of £180. i have just used them on the river wye and found them fantastic. no sweating and no coldness due to a really good quality neoprene lined boot. i got the ones with the felt sole and cleated heel. i then added studs to the felt and they were superb. didnt slip on the muddy banks once and the grip on the weed was great. i highly recommend these. i looked for ages before buying and am so glad i ended up with this product. hope this helps, b115ter.
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scubasteve |
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These are the ones I have....LINK.
Had two sets over the last 6 or 7 seasons. Must admit, they have been fantastic. I would never go back to neoprene or rubber waders again, breathable are much more comfortable. I dont bother with the proper wading boots either, I just buy a cheap pair of walking books (for half the price I did find a fly fishing shop in N Ireland who was doing them at a good price, but I cant find the details, if I come across them I will post it. Steve |
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medwaydan |
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Hi mate
first, the offer b115ter took is a great deal, and you won't go wrong with that - wish I had the money, I'd buy some too! More generally, here are some points I think are important. I use chest waders every week, because I took up fly fishing in the close season to keep me sane. 1. What do you want chest waders for? If you are going that deep, is it to fish, or simply for access? Flowing water that is chest deep can take you down at the slightest imbalance or slip. I only contemplate actually fishing in anything over knee deep when I know the swim intimately, and the flow is low and predictable - and that is for 1 pound trout. 2. How often will you use them? Unless you are really going to bang the nuts out of them, it can be a lot of money sitting in a damp bag. If only occasional use, buy cheap and take the discomfort, maybe carry some trainers to change into once in place. 3. How far/in what terrain will you walk in them? Long walks in non-breathable waders will leave you wetter than if you'd jumped in the river. But tough pvc waders will resist thorns better than neoprene or fancy breathables. Always carry a repair kit - one tiny hole can really spoil your day. Also, badly fitting boots will kill your feet, and the damp will make matters worse. 4. What weather will you use them in? Neoprene are warm in winter, mo-fo'ing hot in summer, until you get in the river. A constant flow of water over your waders will really chill you, whatever the air temp. If you are sitting on the bank in them, you'll be hotter than hell unless they are breathable. That's why you might consider thigh waders, which can be rolled down, unless wading depth makes that impractical. 5. Safety & comfort - wellies just don't have the fit, and hence the surefootedness of lace-up boots. Cleats add a major grip advantage. 6. Fit - I would never attempt to buy waders without trying them on, unless you know the brand well. The better makes have a wide range of sizes. The key fitting dimensions are chest/waist, inside leg, and foot. Trying to bend down in short waders risks castration. Cheaper makes have fittings such as "sizes 10/11". Would you buy any other footwear that vague? 7. Budget - my chest waders are nylon, and cost me £19 from Decathlon. They get sweaty, but are pretty tough, and suit me ok for what I do. However, any serious waders will set you back around £100 upwards, plus the boots if you buy stockingfoot. You can pay over £500 just for waders! My advice would be: To start, buy dead cheap, and allow yourself time to see what you need personally. After that, breathables all the way, unless you have really tough bankside conditions, in which case Snowbee Granites pvc - pretty bomb proof. Good makes include Snowbee, Airflo, Vision, Orvis, Hardy, Greys, and for the too rich, Simms. There are others - the range of sizes will generally tell you the quality. Personally I would steer clear of R*n Th*mpson, but Wychwood do a hybrid breathable top/neo legs which is well thought of and not too expensive. Daiwa also make neo chest boot waders which go for around 40 quid, and are fine. Stocking foot is better fitting and more comfortable, bootfoot is easier to get into, less to worry about. Bottom line is that around £150, maybe a bit less, will get you set up with reasonable waders and boots which will last with a bit of care, but £20-£40 will get you off the mark. Final bit of advice - playing a double-figure barbel whilst waist deep in a fast swim is MADNESS. One hand for the fishing, one hand for you at all times. If you can't, get out of the water. Online stores do a good range of waders, and there are usually deals on waders & boot combo's. BUT try before you buy, especially boot fit. American sports goods stores do amazing deals on waders, inc camo ones for hunting, but you have the VAT gamble if you order that way. Finally, wading is an amazing way of getting to know the river. If you've never done it, go in first without rod and kit. River beds are dangerous, unpredictable and fascinating, and give you a real insight into the fish's view of you. be safe dude Dan |
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BarbusFan |
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Dan, Steve, Paul, B115ster, Thank you all, for your pearls of wisdom. It has given me quite a bit to think about. As this is something that will take some carefull research. I will make do with some thigh waders until i have the chesty thing worked out.
Michael |
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b115ter |
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good points medwaydan. always safety first. i never wade coloured water and seldome go in above the nuts. i find mine more benifitial at keeping my arse dry when roving and sitting on wet ground. likewise, be safe all. cheers, b115ter.
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fredrickmore |
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I dont think anyones said it yet (if u have im sorry) but wading can be very dangerious, life threating in fact, if you work into off shallow ledge into a deep hole (deeper than you) your waders will bascily fill up and its bye bye as u willnt be able to get out of them. Im sure its all common sense and im sure you already know all of this anyway but i think its worth saying.
I could of lost a mate nearly this year as he was about to get in a river without using the landing net pole before and its only cause i told him to he did, and lets just say if he didnt i would be standing there watching my sudderly disappear and its shook me up that did, so now no matter how well i know river, i also take a pole, stick and test the depth. ------
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harry chubb |
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Hi barbusfan--Here,s a little story about waders.I used to own a pair of the thigh ones(sexy ones).In them hot summers a few years back the river became nigh on unfishable due to weed.I found a swim where there was about a 20yd clear run on the far bank.The problem was when hooking keeping the fish in the clear stretch then getting them through the really thick streamer on the inside. I managed to get a couple out by going up the bank keeping my rod high as possible really tightning up as much as possible with 12lb line.In 2 visits I lost 3 out of 5 hooked which aint on, as really a ratio like that suggests I should be leaving them alone.With my thinking hat on I decided a mohammed + mountain approach.I got out my waders which had been hanging unused for about 3 yrs and traped down to the river with the missus.I waded out to the edge of the near bank streamer got a rod rest in and stood in about two and a half foot of water.I set my drag really tight and cast on the bar.After about 2hrs into dark and nothing happening I had that blanky feeling.Do i wanna a cuppa the missus asked. Yeah.She had wellies on and with a couple of steps back I could just reach where she got to.As I grabbed my cuppa the missus screamed,I turned round to see my rod nearly going into orbit.I lunged at the rod throwing a hot cuppa in my face at the same time falling face first on my rod.I somehow managed to get hold of the rod and actually tigtened into a fish which despite having the clutch really tight was screaming line off.A turn of the clutch and for a second I had it right to plan.Here I was in the middle of the river,wet but a large barbel under control with the missus behind me with a net-Glorious-. Then as I moved ,disaster,it felt like being tripped up.Over I went again right under still holding the rod.I managed to stand up again,but by now my line was at about 6 different angles in the streamer.I could,nt get any line back and had to waddle back to the bank like a drowned rat and pull till the inevitable snap.The missus was laughing so much she could,nt help at all.On inspection the whole heel and soul had severed from my waders with just the toe still connected.At that moment I gave up barbel for the summer.As I drove home in my pants I don,t think she stopped laughing all the way home.So always inspect your heels.Hope you enjoyed my little story. Regards Harry.
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Danefisher |
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I have found the information on here most helpful. Many thanks to all. Am I correct in thinking some waders (or anglers?) come with a chest belt to attempt to prevent them filling up if you go over in the water?
In addition I presume you would recommend a life vest? They come in different specifications of ooomph. What spec would you recommend? Max oomph or is that for torrential spate rivers and the salmon boys only? |
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harry chubb |
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On a safety issue I was only in 2-3ft of water regarding my soaking and did suss the swim out before entering.On a serious note though rivers are incredibly dangerous and please everyone be careful before entering any water in waders. Regards. Harry.
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timtarrant |
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Excellent thread.. BFW at its best.
Harrychubb.. still laffin at your story |
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The Lurker |
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Great thread - but I am worried that I am missing something here with regard to the safety aspect? Surely if you do go over then the water in the waders is no heavier than that outside the waders so you are not going to sink like a stone? With a tightened belt then water is not going to get in too quickly so the air should allow you to float for a while! I did some tests in a swimming pool and did not find it too daunting! Obviously fast flowing water is a different ball game as is boggy ground....
Also disagree with an earlier post - playing a double figure barbel at eye level was great fun! BTW - I use Scierra MBQ - £80 with boots on Ebay - hree seasons and still going well.. Regards Paul. |
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Titus Aducas |
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Neoprene chesties will give you extra buoyancy in much the same way that a wet suit will, if you do go over the trick is not to panic, go onto your back and use your arms to guide yourself into slack shallow water, don't try to swim as its a waste of time, let the current do the work for you.
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Chris Geezer |
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This time of year the water's warm enough to stand in, starkers! Just jet yerself some jelly sandles and Bob's yer uncle!
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barbeljoe |
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Paul (how's it going mate? PM for you) - spot on fella. All this talk of wellies/waders filling up and making you sink is a load of pony.
I've done safety courses and one of them involved (it sounds crazy, I know...) jumping into a swimming pool with waders and wellies (at different times, of course) and what we should do if we found ourselves in this predicament in a "real" situation (i.e. fishing, falling in one of the big cages on a salmon farm, etc.). The waders and wellies had no effect upon your weight whilst in the water - in fact, they could be used as a bouyancy aid, as all you do is fall in and your waders inflate! Plus, you can also fill your wellies with air and use them as a float. Good fun I can tell ya! Back on topic, I opt for breathables when fishing, then neo's or heavy duty PVC for working in them as breathables can't keep up with them when it comes to strength. |
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