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baitdropper	Boilie prefference !!	Lead	[-]
Posts: 140 (05/06/07 14:47) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Tags : None Hi all, with the new season approaching i am wondering weather to try something new with my approach to the boilies i am using for Barbel. Last season i stuck to The source boilies and Nash Scopex Squid and livers but didnt really have that much to show for using either,most of my Barbel came from Halibut pellets wrapped in paste! A couple of days ago i was talking to a very successful Carp angler who swears by using sweet flavours and nothing else such as Pineapple or tutti frutties he has had great sucess with these two flavours.Seeing as the Barbel is a member of the Carp family i am thinking of changing over to these two flavours for the next season. Have any of you used these and had any success? Feel free to PM me if you wish. Later Hampshire Pete
davhall	Re: Boilie prefference !!	#1	[-]
Posts: 4191 (05/06/07 14:59) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	hbs stench. dave.
dr barbus	Re: Boilie prefference !!	#2	[-]
Posts: 1643 (05/06/07 15:03) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	To paraphrase Roger Miller (Complete Barbel Angler), fish/meat and spicey flavours work better than fruit flavours for Barbel. So no to your suggestion. Barbel scent/taste preferences are different to carp. If you are stuck try Trigga, ST Lamprey or similar. I would have thought "The Source" would have worked. May be something else at work here - Location/Tming? -- Dr Barbus Luck defined is when preparation meets opportunity
albert watkinson	Re: Boilie prefference !!	#3	[-]
Posts: 1296 (05/06/07 15:40) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	the source did well for me last season.nothing over 8lb but prevailed when i was spitting feathers.elips are my first line .there is no ultimate bait.if they are not there you wont catch them .if they are and you scare them you wont hook them.i keep telling myself this and accept the outcome. albert.
baitdropper	Re: Boilie prefference !!	#4	[-]
Posts: 140 (05/06/07 16:03) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Oh well maybe i will rethink them flavours,after all i mght get pestered by those bloody great river Carp that we have down here . chees Pete
chech221	Re: Boilie prefference !!	#5	[-]
Posts: 940 (05/06/07 16:12) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	hi dr b how about bloodworm boilies. anyone tried them i got some and worked well with carp but waiting for the 16th to give them a try out hopefully old wiskers will snaffle them up
dr barbus	Re: Boilie prefference !!	#6	[-]
Posts: 1643 (05/06/07 16:21) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Bloodworm based baits is a strange one. I know how good they are for carp, and bloodworm are found on/in river beds but last year I got next to no response to bloodworm pellets or baits incorporating them. Not sure why - discussed with a few others and they said the same - strangely no response when expected. Good luck to you if you are basing a campaign on them! -- Dr Barbus Luck defined is when preparation meets opportunity
chech221	Re: Boilie prefference !!	#7	[-]
Posts: 940 (05/06/07 16:26) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I WONDER DR B if its worth wrapping them in a paste for them to be more effective but il keep you posted on how well they do on the river tees
ian 3663	Re: Boilie prefference !!	#8	[-]
Posts: 395 (05/06/07 17:08) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Ive been using the mainline Activ 8 boilies for years caught plenty of fish using them and you can also by the basemix to make paste and then put the two together Perfect!! You dont seem many people using them now but i wouldn't change.Bit hard to find in tackle shop where i live put if you shop around you can find them I get mine for here www.climaxtackle.com Cheers Ian
fredrickmore	Re: Boilie prefference !!	#9	[-]
Posts: 704 (05/06/07 17:15) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Ive tried glugged bloodworm boilies without any success ------ Dynamite Baits boilies (Spicy Shrimp and Prawn and Marine Halibut) for sale, £5 per k,g see classied section.
davelumb	Re: Boilie prefference !!	#10	[-]
Posts: 817 (05/06/07 17:20) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I wonder if this stuff about spicy/fishy baits for barbel is just received wisdom? It is, after all, a proven fact that every fish that swims in freshwater is a sucker for Tutti Frutti. I have seen catfish and pike caught by design on TF flavoured boilies and deadbaits respectively. As for barbel? I'm not suggesting that TFs are the new wonder bait, but barbel don't turn their noses up at them... ----------- They're only fish...
Ian Grant	Boilie prefference !!	#11	[-]
Posts: 599 (05/06/07 18:00) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Hi Pete, Sounds like you've fallen well and truly into the bait trap to me i was there a couple of years ago, until someone rescued me ! That was when it got really hard using spicy meat, so i changed, to boillies, then pellets then back to a different boillie, and on and on, if i blanked more than twice it had to be the bait, so i'd give something else a go. My advice is, choose a bait that you know is catching Barbel, and stick to it exclusively, i know the feeling of ' I can't keep using a bait week in week out unless i've got confidence in it,' but confidence is only built up over time you just have to bite the bullet, and give the bait you choose a really good go, and i do know thats not easy. Best of luck mate. Regards Ian.
dr barbus	Re: Boilie prefference !!	#12	[-]
Posts: 1643 (05/06/07 18:42) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I have at times experimented with two different baits on seperate rods. Usually a banker on one rod and some experiment on the other. On the Boilie vs boilie; trigga vs fruit flaour, trigga vs bloodworm has always resulted in the Trigga bait outperforming and the fruit and bloodworm baits failing all together. This has been on a few rivers (Severn, Ouse, Nidd, Swale etc). It has tended to back the received wisdom of fish/meat/spice flavours for Barbel. The lack of response on bloodworm was a surprise tho. And that was as soft boilie, hard boilie and paste. As far advice, I think Ian has it right - there are plenty of good base mixes/ready mades out there that are known Barbel catchers - so start with one of them and give it chance to work over a period of a month or two in all conditions. Whether that is Premier, Wakkas, Trigga, Dynamite, TS Lamprey, Hinders etc. - plenty recommended in these pages and elsewhere. And of course on many occassions pellet/meat/corn/etc outperform any of these. Of course none of this stops you experimenting, but it does pay to etablish a base line of what a relatively known good bait (for barbel) does and then see how to improve it. Me - I like tinkering with bait recipes so I expect some failures along the way to finding a better than average individual bait. -- Dr Barbus Luck defined is when preparation meets opportunity
krisprice 100	Re: Boilie prefference !!	#13	[-]
Posts: 967 (05/06/07 19:28) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Providing you're using a half decent bait, many already mentioned, i would tend to give more thought about application. Apart from a few waters that are heavily baited the majority of barbel are not that bait conscious IMO.
sneakypeter	Re: Boilie prefference !!	#14	[-]
Posts: 844 (05/06/07 19:39) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Bloodworm boilies????? they work in lakes, but in rivers for barbel, not convinced! Bloodworm live in deep silt, how many barbel get caught over this type of bottom? In flood conditions then quantities of bloodworm & other silt dwellers will get carried by the flow & eaten by all species, but in normal conditions I would doubt they make up anything but a tiny part of a barbels diet! Most tried & tested quality baits will catch barbel, some better then others! How you fish them, is the most important factor. Personally, I never feed any whole baits, preferring to feed small pellets & broken bits, just using whole baits(1or2) on the hook. peter
skidlid56	Re: Boilie prefference !!	#15	[-]
Posts: 3040 (05/06/07 20:15) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Quote Bloodworm boilies????? they work in lakes, but in rivers for barbel, not convinced! Bloodworm live in deep silt, how many barbel get caught over this type of bottom? How much luncheon meat,sausage,or bacon do barbel naturally see on gavel or other............................ Lots get caught on them though regards Howard
sneakypeter	Re: Boilie prefference !!	#16	[-]
Posts: 844 (05/06/07 20:35) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Maybe the flavour just doesn,t interest them, unlike meat &other flavours, bet they catch a lot more anglers than fish! peter
fredrickmore	Re: Boilie prefference !!	#17	[-]
Posts: 704 (05/06/07 20:38) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Peter, I think thats what we trying to get at, bloodworm dont interest them. Maybe someone should try a grammus flavoured bait ------ Dynamite Baits boilies (Spicy Shrimp and Prawn and Marine Halibut) for sale, £5 per k,g see classied section.
apsu	You gotta smile....	#18	[-]
Posts: 118 (06/06/07 06:56) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	... bloodworm boilies dont interest carp that much either compared to BFM, Actives or Premier stuff. Oh sure there will be exceptions but on the whole bloodworm boilies, forget 'em. The barbs like GLME, liver pdr, yeasts, and a few secret (?) others. It's a very competitive market in the bait game. Any percieved innovation will be jumped on by the bait buyers. Some baits work better than others whether it be for carp, barbel, or tench. Find out which they are and stick with 'em as the'll do the job asked of them if your fishing skills are half sensible. I feel at the end of the day one has toget out there on the bank as often as possible and use the 'best boilies in the world' which are the eyes in your head
darrens2	Re: Boilie prefference !!	#19	[-]
Posts: 719 (06/06/07 08:07) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Pete (baitdropper), Source and trigga are both prooven quality baits on the rivers you are fishing but pellet will probably outfish both in the summer. My chosen route would be to select one recognised year round boilie for the season and introduce/try throughout the summer whilst concentrating on pellet or pellet wrapped in paste (same as boilie). come Autumn/winter the barbel will have seen a regular supply of your chosen boilies as feed and be right on them when the temperatures start to drop. Don't get hung up on changing baits, as others have suggested it is one of the biggest misconceptions in angling that there are wonder baits..........plenty of good baits and application is the key to success. Darren.
Guy Baxendale	Re: Boilie prefference !!	#20	[-]
Posts: 839 (06/06/07 08:46) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Boilie wise - all of the following have worked for me: Waka Monster Crab (My present choice) Dynamite Source Dynamite Halibut Dynamite Spicy Shrimp & Prawn Mainline Active 8 Carp Company Caviar & Cranberry DD Baits Crustea There are dozen's more that would work well from the bag. the Grange & Trigga both have good reputations for barbel as do the CC Moore baits. Personally I am more confident with freezer baits but the Dynamite readymades are excellent. All you need to do is pick one - they all work!

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