Hi all, just decided to start a thread on winter barbel baits, im basically new to barbel fishing myself really...only been fishing for them for 2 seasons...however i have never fished for them in the winter...my last catch was about 2 weeks ago on hallibut pellet...however i have been told maggots and smeel pastes...what do ya guys rekon on that????
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Winter Barbel Baits
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 Barbel kid |
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Billybarb |
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Posts: 124 (23/11/06 21:53) |
Hi Dean,
Check out the FAQ top of the page, It has loads of stuff on this ok  Billy |
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Andy Frances |
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Posts: 2675 (24/11/06 16:35)
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Certainly worth having a look in the FAQ
 Personally I'll be fishing paste from now on, not necessarily sweet though, probably still fishy and wrapped round a boilie. Must try meatballs properly this season as well.... cheers, Andy F |
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Barbel kid |
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Posts: 91 (24/11/06 16:41) |
Thanks all
Good Advise given, I have also been told about meatballs...worth a try Dean |
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Andy Thatcher |
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Posts: 6442 (24/11/06 17:16)
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In flood certainly.
Don't be afraid to use a very large hook with them ! Cheers
Andy |
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 barbelist |
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Posts: 890 (24/11/06 19:54) |
Evening all,
been thinking about meatballs recently, as a change bait.... ....how would you go about rigging them, they seem mighty fragile to me  Spoke to a chap on the Teme some weeks ago, and he mentioned threading some up the hooklink with one over the hook. Cast out, ignore the rod knocks as the baits on the hooklength are sampled and hold on tight when the hook bait gets taken  Paul |
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barbelist |
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Posts: 890 (24/11/06 19:58) |
I am also going to make up a block of bait that I can cut pieces off, the size that I want.
Mixture will be 50/50 Source basemix and halibut pellet powder, with Bankside "oyster crunch" liquid. Plan is to make up the mix with the requisite amount of eggs, shape into a block and boil for a couple of minutes.... ....hopefully I will end up with a block of bait, soft in the middle with a skin on the outside that can be cut into cubes, akin to luncheon meat but a bit different Paul |
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devilfishsix |
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Posts: 1 (24/11/06 22:13) |
that sounds like a fantastic bait i have something similar which is made from ground baits from the sensas 3000 range the carp mix is excellent mix it like aboilie mix with some maize meal and winter trout pellet paste and eggs it works well in large cubes and it takes all that can fit it in their mouth,s. good luck to you all
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blueflyingtonight |
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Posts: 171 (24/11/06 23:40) |
Sainsbury's do swedish pork and beef meatballs that seem pretty tough out of the packet. I kept a few back after feeding the kids tonight and plan to try them on the Loddon tomorrow. Anyone used them?
Steve |
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shippo |
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Posts: 2378 (25/11/06 00:05) |
Watched a mate the other night using fox pellet pegs to mount meat they could also be the answer for meatballs....cheers clive
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ajb |
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Posts: 636 (25/11/06 16:23) |
When i use meat balls i just push a size 2 hook straight through and turn a little then push back in.
Had no problems at all doing it like that and caught a few fish as well. cheers,Andy |
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Leo |
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Posts: 578 (25/11/06 17:56) |
I have tied some hairs to a 4 hook, especially for the meatballs, Has anyone haired a meatball? If so I would appeciate any feed back as to how succesfull (or not) it was.
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newatallthis |
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Posts: 68 (26/11/06 01:57) |
barbelist
i used to make the blocks of bait you refer to for carping. very good bait indeed, especially on pressured waters that had been hammered on round boiled baits. a few tips: i always used to wrap the block in loads of clingfilm and then wrap with a good few layers of brown packing tape. this seals the block and will reduce or even eliminate the leak off of the flavours and attractors in your bait during the boiling process. experiment with boiling times, you will find that different mixes will require different boiling times to get the desired effect. you will probably need about 20 mins. i used to like my blocks so that the outside had a nice skin-perfect for hair rigging then the further towards the centre you go, the softer the block. it does take some experimenting but you can get it just right and have some paste like mix left in the middle. cut while still warm, it makes the job easier, and cut into all different shapes and sizes thanks, glad you posted that, i had all but forgotten about this, im gonna give it a try for old whiskers. |
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barbelist |
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Posts: 890 (26/11/06 11:28) |
Did I read that right....
....20 minutes in the boiler I was thinking more along the lines of 2 or 3 maybe.Paul |
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gudgeonowl |
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Posts: 498 (26/11/06 12:36) |
Paul Barbelist, am I right in thinking you used to live next door to Andy Stephens ? (Now in New Zealand ?)
Time spent in recconnaissance is seldom wasted.....
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steve carden |
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Posts: 984 (26/11/06 13:18) |
New Zealand!
Darned long way to go, to escape the pong of your neighbours baitmaking!!
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gudgeonowl |
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Posts: 498 (26/11/06 13:33) |
Andy was a carper, so it was probably a bit tit for tat Steve !
Time spent in recconnaissance is seldom wasted.....
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barbelist |
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Posts: 890 (26/11/06 16:08) |
gudgeonowl,
Hmmmm, that's me.... ....that was some years ago, moved about 14 years ago Paul |
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newatallthis |
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Posts: 68 (26/11/06 17:59) |
yes you did read that right.....20 mins.
once you drop the block in, the temperature drops considerably, it will take 2 or 3 mins for the water to come back to to the boil. the blocks i used to make were usually a 4 egg mix, around a lb of base mix. they use to turn out around the size of a house brick. it will take a while to warm that all the way through, let alone cook the mix. as i said, the cooking time will take some experimenting with depending on the type of mix and consistency. 20 mins is merely a guide. you could try 10-15 mins, take the block out, cut it in half and see what its like. if you feel it needs longer, just wrap it back up in cling film and tape and drop it back in the pan. |
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barbelist |
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Posts: 890 (26/11/06 18:11) |
Gonna have to get some more gas for the stove then
Mrs T hasn't yet relented to letting my bait making experiments back into the kitchen.... ....green lipped mussel, seafood blend and monster crab out the mockers on my useage of her kitchen years ago Come to think of it, just as Andy Stephens was emigrating Paul |
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newatallthis |
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Posts: 68 (26/11/06 18:21) |
mmmmmmmm monster crab.......cause of many a separation.
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