Manged to get on today must be beginners luck
i had one barbel and a
chub. Fished over a bed of hemp using worms and meat on the hook.
i had one barbel and a
chub. Fished over a bed of hemp using worms and meat on the hook.
River Goyt
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Posts: 12 (30/06/08 19:24) |
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richp |
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Posts: 458 (01/07/08 09:01) |
Nice one Paul.
I had a short session last night - lost a biggish barbel (keep getting broken at the knotless knot so need to try another line - any suggestions welcome  )
and also landed a beauty of 7lb 9oz. Pic to follow later in the week. So two landed and two lost so far for me......
Cheers, Rich |
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Posts: 10 (01/07/08 10:33) |
Well done on the two landed, hard luck on the losses Rich, on the breakage at the knot have you tried laying the first turn away from the end of the metal that
forms the eye, sometimes this is sharp and will cut the line, sorry if I'm telling gradma how to suck eggs.
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richp |
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Posts: 459 (01/07/08 11:04) |
Jack - thanks for the tip. I thought along the same lines and have tried tyng on the unbroken side of the eye - to no avail. I'm using Maxima 10lb bs as my
hooklengths as well.
Cheers, Rich |
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Posts: 4 (01/07/08 11:24) |
I had a similar problem ie cutting off at the eye when using the knotless knot with mono--fil line. I now only use fine braid hooklinks and I've not lost
any at the knots for more than 3 seasons.
must be worth a try. swagman |
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Posts: 460 (01/07/08 12:46) |
swagman - yes, you may well be right though I worry about the visibility of braid in the water. Do you use a particular brand? And what's your opinion on
the visibility question?
In many ways I guess it's just a case of building confidence with a new material. However, I'm obviously not doing too well with mono. My nerves get shot every time I feel something substantial on the hook
Cheers, Rich |
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Posts: 5 (01/07/08 13:21) |
I use Suffix Stealth and remove the wax outer skin by scraping it with my thumb nail. It's a drap green colour and very flexible, I think that the movement
of the bait is more significant than the visability of the hooklink. I've used the same method for carp and never had a problem with it. Use a Grinner knot
to tie onto a swivel at the other end of the hooklink I make mine about 14 to 16 inch long so the bait gets to move about freely.
Swagman
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richp |
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Posts: 462 (01/07/08 15:50) |
This is posted on another thread, but looks like a good bit of kit for those not willing to spend wads on a rod pod (please excuse the attempt at poetry):
Bosfish swagman - you may well be right about bait presentation. Thanks |
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Posts: 76 (01/07/08 18:36) |
I thought i'd chip in to the hooklink debate.
The only two i would ever choose are Suffix Magic Touch - cheap at 2.99 for 20m. Don't be fooled by the look of it. I used it on a crystal clear Teme for years after breaking that mental barrier that you must use fluorocarbon / invisible links in clear water. Total *$%@. Caught loads of fish on it and its unbelievable in snags. No matter how much it rubs on snags it won't break, in fact theres hardly a scratch. Stroft - Use it as a main line as its the most supple line, low dia for the BS you choose and is a very durable. Never lost a fish on it. (........cursed myself now!!!!!!!!!!!!!). Use it straight through at 11lb. 6 quid for 100m. As for knots, if the knotless knot has broke then check the hooks. The slightest imperfection around the eye will be found out in a fight. |
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Posts: 44 (01/07/08 19:03) |
Rich, as I told you last season it's nowt to do with line, hooks or knot it's everything to do with the way you play the fish. You're being "rocked off". All the above advice about line, hooks, knots etc is good. The real solution however is stop them touching down. If you can't listen to sound advice from someone who knows then please leave them alone.
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richp |
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Posts: 463 (01/07/08 19:28) |
John - leave what alone? I don't let them touch base - why is why your advice was as irrelevant now as it was then. I'm all for being reasonable but
don't like the tone of your post.
Rich |
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Posts: 13 (01/07/08 20:30) |
Nice one Rich well done m8.Been on again today different swim,different bait, tried pellets & boilies no luck just a brown trout. I found those dam
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Posts: 434 (01/07/08 22:44) |
Hi All
Hope all is well. I'd just like to highlight something i witnessed tonight. I have been at a club general meeting. This club holds one stillwater and as far as i'm aware most of its members are predominently stillwater anglers. Yet the amount of times i overheard "Goyt", "barbel", "fishing its head off" "free fishing" was untrue. Of course i tried to clear up the free fishing bit but as i'm sure you can imagine what their reply was. This was grown, "mature" adults and not kids/ teenagers/ yobs et al who don't give a damn about the fed ownership. All i could do was try and tell them the river wasnt fishing and it was all rubbish what they had heard. I suppose what i am getting at is the Goyt is getting well and truly fished apart (the popular stretches anyway). This is by people who have no intention of taking up SDAF or any other clubs membership. What can we do about this? If i remember rightly this was all discussed last year and we have got nowhere. Every tom, dick and harry knows there is very little bailiffing presence, by the EA or otherwise so are happy to poach. Is it a better idea just to travel away from popular stretches, but then will we find these people move too? Believe me, this thread comes in for some stick and some of it can be justified but i feel we need to wake up and smell the coffee before its too late ( it may already be!!!) I don't mean to open a can of worms and i'm not looking for any responses to this post, i'm just highlighting a situation where the river has been the forefront of conversation between a large group of stillwater anglers. I'm sorry i started this thread a few weeks ago, although i'm sure it would of been made anyway. I just hope things dont get any worse. On a lighter note should be out tomorrow. Can't wait. Dan |
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Posts: 355 (01/07/08 23:22) |
Hmm, Horses and Gates spring to mind, with sinking ships. Never mind I can always publicise the less well known stretches can't I ? Anyone found a peg yet without beer cans etc cos' I haven't. |
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Posts: 464 (02/07/08 08:08) |
Well, if the Fed wants (as it should) to protect the interest of its waters and members, it should up the ante in terms of bailiffing. I haven't seen one
this season.
Gaskes - horses, gates, bolts? Try reading Hypocrites. I seem to remember you being a prolific poster on here last season before you turned into 'secret squirrel'. What a load of old tripe this 'holier than thou' attitude is...... Rich |
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Posts: 356 (02/07/08 10:02) |
Hello Rich,
I learnt my lesson very fast, which was why I stopped being specific about the river, put it down to excitement from catching my first barbel. It has also got something to do with understanding, I was already an adult before the Thatcher years and already had some of the 'values' that were lost in those years. I don't expect something for nothing. I am prepared to work / trade for my information / knowledge and I don't expect / demand that knowledge be freely given at any cost. I have had the same type of discussion with you in the past about information, at the time you did not think I was hypocritical, just wrong. I must admit that it was nice to see you had edited your posts, where you had been very specific about catches and locations. I doubt that the river can be effectively be 'policed' by any organisation because of the open public access. I did read another Goyt thread on a fluff chuckers site that was killed off / closed by the contributors, for the same reasons that Dan has cited. You would say they were selfish to keep the information about the fishing to themselves, I would say they were sensible. If an angler wants to fish a river the very least he can do is walk the banks, look and ask. There are no day ticket areas, all are club or private (farm) apart from Paint Master. There is also the PM system for swapping information - it is what I use to keep in touch and be specific. Have you looked at the post to views ratio for this small river - it is up there with the big boys - there is a lot of interest in this small river. Dave
AKA Mr Self-Righteous (Single)
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Posts: 357 (02/07/08 10:05) |
Hi Eric & Peter,
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Posts: 40 (02/07/08 19:47) |
Richp
Don't know if this helps but I've been using Berkley Vanish Flourocarbon for a few years now on the Ribble without too many problems, in coloured water I use Suffix coated hooklengths. Personally I do think that water clarity is important when it comes to hooklength material, ultimately it's all down to confidence in the gear that you are using. Good luck with whatever solution you try! |
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Posts: 465 (03/07/08 08:07) |
Cheers Woody. You're absolutely right as regards confidence. I'll make a few changes I think and, after the first fish, I won't look back
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Thanks again.
Rich |
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dan1988 |
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Posts: 435 (03/07/08 13:10) |
anyone know whos is the second barbel in the gallery?
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.Cant comment on lines as i use cheap 
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