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Felix333	Beach fishing	Lead	[-]
Posts: 817 (21/04/08 11:11) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Tags : None Hi I am camping at Pevensey at the end of May and was told you can catch mackerel fom the beach. I was hoping someone on here could give me some tips as I have only ever sea fished the UK from a boat in the channel once before. I intend using a 2.75 carp rod, 12 lb (possibly 15lb) line with 3-4oz breakaway leads and some bait or feathers, and probably a paternoster type set up, but while I can see jigging feathers working from a boat, wasn't sure what was the thing to try from the beach. I would also consider spinning. I realise a my gear is not the ideal, but feel I should give it a go. If you can provide some advice or point me to some web sites that can help I would be grateful. Chris
SL		#1	[-]
Posts: 124 (21/04/08 13:41) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Chris, I have a couple of tides each year feathering for mackeral on the North Norfolk coast. If the weather is right (hot and windless) an evening tide can be quite productive in July and August. It is very much a hit and miss affair though but it makes for a cracking evening's exercise as the sun sets. I use 2.75 carp rods with big pit reels, 12 lb line and 4oz leads. You will probably find you will be able to outcast most of the guys using beach fishing gear.I just don't know about May. Simon
Lawman		#2	[-]
Posts: 1737 (21/04/08 14:22) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Hi Chris, Hope you are well fella. Agree with Simon, if you are using a biggish fixed spool and carp rod you'll get a fair distance. The only caveat I would state here Chris is the time of the year. A warm spring and the first of the mackerel should be in but it hasn't been that warm of late so it could be a tadge early for them.... Ian PS - Hope you got your Txi's "A mound of earth on Walton Breck Road was created for the growing numbers of fans to watch the team. It was called the 'Spion Kop' after a battle in the Boer War six years earlier. It was not the only Kop - low hill in Afrikaans - nor the first. But it would become the greatest......."
sneydbill		#3	[-]
Posts: 972 (21/04/08 16:56) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	May is a bit early for mackerel, I'd bait fish for anything that comes along. Usually with me it's bl***y dogfish. You really need some local knowledge, try the nearest tackle shop for the best bait/method. Bill
Nicepix		#4	[-]
Posts: 643 (21/04/08 18:15) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	If its too early for mackerel you can always target flatties such as plaice or flounder with that sort of tackle. I don't know the area myself. Look for sandy areas or estuaries and use as light a ledger as you can with a 4 or 2 hook and bits of mussel, squid, crab or worms.
mwelsh3		#5	[-]
Posts: 1119 (21/04/08 22:11) Administrator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Fishing out of Bradwell, on the Blackwater, we have been feathering for mackerel and bass since the start of April when offshore enough to be in clearish water and have not yet come across any of the former - we leave the rod alone with the lead just off the bottom and use the rocking of the boat to provide the motion on the feathers. They'll definitely be about by the end of May in my area from a boat but I'm not sure about the location you mention and from the shore. I'd always associated shore based mackerel fishing to be something you do from the rocks and/or where there is deep water close in, especially with feathers - but I might be wrong and/or your venue may fit the bill. Bass on the other hand are entirely different and can be caught "1 foot offshore" in ridiculously shallow water around my neck of the woods. If it was a "normal" looking beach you'll be fishing from then as suggested I'd use baits that give you the best chance of covering as many bases as possible to find out what might be there - so lug, squid and perhaps strips of mackerel. Not sure I've helped, sorry. ATB Mike Edit: Just checked and it looks like mackerel should be about in the general area you mention by early / mid May. Things may be a bit behind on land this year but the sea temperature is about the same as this time last year so probably not such a big factor. Last Edited By: mwelsh3 21/04/08 22:20. Edited 1 times.
Felix333	beach fishing	#6	[-]
Posts: 819 (22/04/08 18:36) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Thanks for all the replies. I think Pev is a sandy/single with slope. Any specific comments about feathers working from the beach? If not I will try with lugs and see what happens. Interesting now someone mentioned bass. I dearly want to catch one as I love eating them -so any tips or comments about the likehood would be most welcome. Presume all the gear should be dowsed in fresh water after use? Ian Was chatting to Ed last Saturday about a fluff session and bass fishing did come up. I know you go once a year? any tips for finding a boat or being able to make up the numbers? The TXis turned into a new TV but will buy shortly once the piggy bank has recovered. I am also considering the new cheapies from TFG (X-sense £150)and Ron Thompson - Prologic Sensora £130) both have 3 x alarms and receiver. As I only need them a couple of times a year when after cats, the expense of the Delkims is a little hard to justify bar they will hold their value and last a lifetime. BTW Kev Whitcombe had a monster cat yesterday or today I think, look out for his post if he chooses to share. If it helps anyone the Force 8s are apparently a little fragile with the receiver ariel particularly prone to breaking, and despite the ad blurb are not 100% weatherproof. Still not sure about the size but I have a mate who is going to send me a pic of one against a ruler. Chris Last Edited By: Felix333 22/04/08 18:38. Edited 1 times.
sneakypeter		#7	[-]
Posts: 431 (22/04/08 19:43) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Chris, feathering will definately work from the beach, in shallow water(like Pevensey), you will need a high tide either dawn or dusk, and a calm sea. Keep your eyes open, they will often show as they chase sandeels to the surface, they move up and down the beaches very quickly, so move to showing fish, and keep following them untill you have caught enough. If you want bass, the better fish tend to be caught in darkness, normally with a rough sea, and can be very close in, just in the gutter at the base of the shingle. Fresh mackerel, either the head& guts, or a whole fillet is a really good bait, use big hooks, 4/0+, another good early bait is either a big peeler crab, or a soft backed one, watch out for stray smoothhounds with crabs, they will pull your rod in, just like barbel, and are serious fun, especially a big one!!! Peter
exiledbarbelman		#8	[-]
Posts: 483 (22/04/08 23:06) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I used to fish the beach at Southsea when my Aunt was alive and caught nowt but Whelcks!!! Talk about the dead sea. Did catch some Mackeral from the pier in April though.
Galeus		#9	[-]
Posts: 18 (23/04/08 19:37) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	A great tip is to use a large Dexter Wedge in place of the lead when feathering.
thisisjohn		#10	[-]
Posts: 7797 (24/04/08 09:44) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Chris, just pop into a local tackleshop there and ask the guy about boat trips catering for individuals, theres usually 1 or 2 doing this in most locations also the tackleshop will tell you the best spots to beach fish from too and what the current prospects are mate, we gotta get a day out together this season....j.w
Felix333	Beach fishing	#11	[-]
Posts: 821 (25/04/08 13:50) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Cheers what is a ? wedge? I will hold you to that jw. I am working up a thirst for perch this year I did ask a tackle shop local to my mum and they said lucky to get on a boat this year as the bad weather has meant most trips backed up. Chris
mwelsh3		#12	[-]
Posts: 1121 (25/04/08 17:02) Administrator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Chris, Take a look here. Cheers Mike edit: Are you looking to go from a specific port? If not drop me a mail as I can put you onto a few friends from Bradwell and Burnham in Essex. Last Edited By: mwelsh3 25/04/08 17:08. Edited 1 times.
thisisjohn		#13	[-]
Posts: 7805 (26/04/08 08:44) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Hey Mick, is Rod L still working a boat from there? i remember in his early days there he was so enthusiastic we had to threaten to tie him up so we could head the boat for home 9.0pm at night and he was still saying just another hour lads the bass will be feeding soon thast was one long day that day mate....j.w
Felix333	Beech fishing	#14	[-]
Posts: 822 (05/05/08 10:53) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Hi Mike, I am camping at the Camping and Caravan club site at Pevensey and will fish from the beech next to it. Think it is pebbley, and I aim to chuck out 3-4ozs with a set of feathers, reel in and see what happens. I have bought a cheap 2.5.t/c carp rod for the purpose (£12) so as not to ruin any of my freshwater rods, and will use an older ABU Cardinal fixed spool. I will try to wash it down afterwards but if it is screwed up, it wont be the end of the world. Can't make my mind up whether to ledger and bait the hook, but may look at a wedge or two when I am next in a shop - I thought those things were called pirks?. I am presuming that beech fishing requires distance casting, is this true or depends on underwater features? Also are there any baits eg prawns that I can nick from the freezer and use? Also is a running ledger with the featehrs ok or would I better off trying to paternoster with a weaker link to the lead? Don't really know what I am doing as you can see :-) jw - it wasn't clear from my post but I was talking to you about the perch and of course would love to try to get that fishing trip in the diary. Hope all is well. Caught a pb cat yesterday, only 10-9 but last cast of a bitelss day. Pic will follow on sep thread. Chris
Avon Calling		#15	[-]
Posts: 111 (05/05/08 12:17) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Whatever you do keep it really simple. I do a bit of beach fishing and I use carp rods and fixed spool reels. Put a weight up the line (I don't go over 4oz because of the light gear), a couple of beads, a nice big swivel and then tie on a 2 foot hooklength (I use 15lb Daiwa Sensor because I've got loads of it). I find sandeels the easiest to use and get hold of. Put a hook through the eye and then again through the side of it's body. Don't worry about distance casting. There's no need (and your gear won't take it either). I just do a gentle lob. All I've caught is pouting, whiting and dog fish but I'm happy with that. The 'die hards' can't stand these species but a fish is a fish! And a 2lb dog fish actually gives a cracking fight on light gear. Bass are caught REALLY close in. Literally a couple of waves out. Stick a mackeral head or whole squid. Try and fish into the dark. All of my fish have been caught at night. I love using braid because of the instant indication. When you first start it's hard to tell what a bite is and what the wave action is but when you get a bite it's unmistakeable. It's really quick, rapid-fire tap-tap-tap on the tip. You can buy really cheap night tip indicators. I've not done any spinning so can't help with that but it seems to be a case of chucking it out and reel in for mackeral. If they're there you'll catch. I've heard of people using a dexter wedge spinner on the end instead of a lead weight. "Robson Green is an actor, not a fisherman. What's next? John Wilson presents ice skating?"
mwelsh3		#16	[-]
Posts: 1127 (07/05/08 21:42) Administrator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Apologies for delay in replying ... John, Name does not ring a bell but I'm pretty new to all of this sea fishing. Hope you are keeping well mate! By way of update, the hounds are now "in" with a few double figure fish being caught at the weekend as well as a few 'unstoppables' which probably means there are a few tope about too. Hoping to get out soon, had to pass on a trip last weekend as was booked on a powerboat course (at Bradwell). Chris, Beach fishing isn't my speciality, in fact no kind of fishing is , but I'd use a lead at the end to start with if using feathers. I nearly always use a running lead when boat fishing (sometimes fixed or semi-fixed when uptiding) but would probably start with a fixed paternoster if bait fishing from the shore as I'd go for a two hook (different baits) set-up when trying to work out what works and what doesn't. My advice would be to try all different approaches, distances and several types of bait. If you catch a small mackerel and you think there are decent bass about then don't necessarily rule out live-baiting (personal choice of course) - the takes are usually very positive. In fact most bass takes are positive in my experience, which isn't to say that they aren't missable. Also remember that bass often swim towards you and are quite good at shedding hooks on slack line. BTW - my pirks weigh about a pound Good luck Mike
thisisjohn		#17	[-]
Posts: 7854 (07/05/08 22:23) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Hi Mick, the guys name is Rod Larner, as i said its was a fair bit back but those skippers dont fade away they just move away do those plaice, dabs and flounders still use the warm waters for their nurserys?, the postage stamp sized ones made good cod baitsChris, Perch? explain please, the download on the email didnt work?, i have ust joined a carpsyndicate and a guest is welcome if booked in advance the seawall is just behind the lake too....j.w
darrens2		#18	[-]
Posts: 592 (08/05/08 08:50) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Hi Chris, I do a little bit from the beach and use feathers with a wedge. simple set-up is tie a swivel to main line, connect feathers to swivel, connect wedge/spoon/weight to end of feathers. I normally use a 2oz/50grm wedge and hokkeye feathers. Another set-up might be a biggish, shallow diving lure with a couple of hokkeye's attached above as teasers. Can be very effective for bass and mackerel. Better when temperature is higher but if you just want to cast around for a few hours the feather method is great. If there are any features (rocks, groines etc) cast along side from differnt angles. If no features keep an eye open for fish dimpling the surface and keep moving. Have fun........ Darren.
bgit		#19	[-]
Posts: 4318 (08/05/08 09:38) Administrator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Had some wonderful times with mackerel and the occasional bass - just used a toby spoon with a fixed spool set up and one of those spiral weights - bent to act as an anti-kink device. Quite a time ago as I used a Mark4 carp rod (some would shreik now) - which was replaced by a SU fibreglass version from JB Walker (they supplied blanks and rod building materials at the time). Got rid of the Mk4 cane - if only I knew. Great fun catching single mackerel and the very occasional bass. Also from the rocks float fished a fish strip for garfish, mackerel and anything else that happened by - great fun. Not at your location though - did quite a bit from Bossington, Portland and SW locations. Cheers Bob
Felix333	Beach fishing and a request	#20	[-]
Posts: 823 (08/05/08 18:35) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Hi Guys, Great advice as usual. I am learning about impact shields and all sorts - thank goodness for the Interenet. Quite interesting really. I also have one request. I am looking for about 10 yards of 20-30lb BS line, to use as a possible shock leader in case I go with a bait set up - so little line doesnt really warrant buying a spool, although I know there is a lot of cheap stuff out there. Anyone out there care to post me some. I am happy to pay your postage - email me on chrisn@ptop.co.uk and I can pass on my postal address. Mike a POUND? that is impressive! hi Darrens - long time :-) jw Carp is good :-) I will call you - as June and July a bit tricky due to wife being away, dogs to care for, and a couple of trips abroad June and August. Bob I am interestd in your thoughts on the following: I bought a really cheap (£12.50) 3 piece 2.5lb 'Dragon' carp rod to use for the beach. The butt ring's lining has popped out on delivery, and although they are sending me a new section, I was after a tip to get it back in. I tried putting the metal ring in some boiling water and the lining in the freezer hoping the smal expansion and contraction would help, but all I have is a bruised thumb for all my efforts. I am guessing the lining is some sort of inert material. Not a huge deal as a replacement is on its way, but thought I would ask. Chris Last Edited By: Felix333 08/05/08 18:39. Edited 2 times.

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