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barbuscluelus		#11	[-]
Posts: 59 (10/03/08 14:02) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	"Look at Wales, same pool of players who went out of The World Cup to Fiji ! Just a different, brave coaching set up ! Their defence was superb and as Huw said to me, they'e learne to 'Win Ugly' and grind victories out ! " Hit the nail square and firmly on the head there, ashton has to realise that its just isn't working, whatever it is he is trying to do, you can't keep blaming the players for under performing every week.
marik		#12	[-]
Posts: 87 (10/03/08 19:11) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	i agree tigerman,we dont have a real leader in the forwards.vickery does'nt have that mean streak like a johno,dallaglio or corry. do you think ashton will make many changes.......i dont think so. for me cipriani, simpson-daniels and tait should start,a bit of pace and vision in the backs would make a change...mark
moustachedfish		#13	[-]
Posts: 146 (11/03/08 20:13) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Does anyone watch the French league rugby on Eurosport on friday nights? Best rugby in the world! The problem with rugby in England is the consistency of style. Look at France all the teams throw the ball around and play unstructed skillful showboat rugby, Welsh clubs play a expansive all inclusive game, the super 14's is in a state at the moment the new rules are stupid. But all the Southern hemisphere teams play the same sort of game, as do their national teams, or with little variation. Brings us to England, Leicester smash it up with the forwards then give it to big backs, Wasps play a good style of rugby, London Irish play everything with their 3/4's and Newcastle play around a 10. Every club plays different rugby and therefore the players aren't accustomed to whatever the hell Ashton is trying to do when they come together. And yes the RFU board need to go.
Tigersman		#14	[-]
Posts: 1188 (12/03/08 17:59) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Hey Mustache, We only have one big back and thats Alex Tulagi, wouldn't say Hipkiss, Smith, Goode, Varndell etc are big. The bit that concerns me is that the teams at the top of the Premiership seem to provide the fewest players. I saw Newcastle play at Leicester and Tait was woeful, Noon wasn't much better and Wilko didn't do much. These players are supposed to be crucial to England yet they're not playing well so why pick 'em. Sinbad, Lamb, Allen, Hipkiss, Ollie Smith are the future get 'em in now or sack the coach. Paul
Nicepix		#15	[-]
Posts: 584 (15/03/08 10:23) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Good luck to Wales. Let's hope they can achieve the dream.
NATLU		#16	[-]
Posts: 947 (15/03/08 21:57) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Sensibble Post Tomorrow Cheers Malcolm
Hugo Curgudgeon		#17	[-]
Posts: 601 (15/03/08 23:57) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	A great afternoon of rugby. Well done Wales!
Dorset Taff		#18	[-]
Posts: 840 (16/03/08 00:28) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Just got home! Cant talk....voice has gone! Cant think straight...brain has gone! Will post my "match analysis" tomorrow For now....Im just blown away!!! What a fantastic afternoon! A very VERY HAPPY TAFF
bacon100		#19	[-]
Posts: 99 (16/03/08 09:01) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	well done taff lads you deserved that
Dorset Taff	Grand Slam	#20	[-]
Posts: 841 (16/03/08 14:22) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Well now the dust has settled and the sore heads have started to wear off, I can look back on what a day and what a championship. Wales thoroughly deserved the win yesterday and the championship as a whole. How different it would have been if Sackey had "grounded" that ball in the 1st half against Wales....would we have come back from 23-6 down? What if the Italian TMO had not given Shane's "try" against Scotland?.....How momentus occasions hinge on the judgement call of one official. The bottom line is that we had the best forward of the tournament in Martyn Williams, the best winger in Shane Williams, a full back that England would kill for in Byrne, had the best coaching team in Gatland, Edwards and Howley and the best supporters. All in all we had a team! The pack may not have been the strongest and the most technically adept, but they played with heart and passion. Gatland wasnt afraid to ring the changes and make everyone compete for their place. People were disciplined behind closed doors and a lid was kept on the expectancy of a nation. The coaches gave Wales a belief and the steel to win ugly. Remember how the classic England/All Black/Bok teams would crush the will out of sides? How the skullduggery around the fringes would gain that few percent of advantage? Well thats what Gatland and Edwards brought to a Welsh side brimming with talent but not much confidence and nous! The true mark will be how we move on from here. Bearing in mind Gatland and Edwards will have seen their stock rise markedly and if the RFU had any sense they would dust off the P45's and issue them to Messers Ashton & Andrews in the morning, then open the cheque book and write 6 noughts preceeded by a number that would be negoiated by the prospective applicant. The WRU too if they had any sense would also be rushing for 2 pairs of golden handcuffs to keep Gatland & Edwards out of the clutches of Twickenham. As for England......As PaulMatty has said...out with the old..in with the new. Jonny Wilko, like Gareth Thomas of Wales, should "announce" his retirement from International rugby, thus clearing the way for Cipriani and avoiding the spectacle of a proud match winner being reduced to a bit part and then the ignominy of being left out. The coach, who ever he may be, should then swing the axe and lay waste to the over hyped, under achievers that wore the white shirt this year. Dont get too carried away with a 33-10 scoreline yesterday...Ireland are a shadow of their former selves...another team that either has hopelessly under achieved or a team that O'Sullivan has simply wasted the golden talent that was available to him. Scotland......where do they go from here? Dan Parks......Dan Pants! White & Stokosch should make the Lions tour, along with Pattison. Italy.....keep building and finding lots of Argentine/All Blacks with a tenuous Roman heritage. France...will continue to thrill and frustrate as they always have done! Wouldnt it be interesting to have a Premiership style play off for top spot between Wales and England now! One gripe....the Sunday Rags!!!! You would have thought that England won the Grand Slam with the amount of column inches! In 2 papers Wales had less that one column for the write up!! C'mon you Fleet Street hacks...get a bit of balance in!!!! I think what won, yet again, was rugby! The total unpredictability of the championship never ceases to amaze and please me......It makes any other sport pale in comparison.....and I just live that aspect. So...Paul..Thanks for being there yesterday to enjoy it and Wales...thanks for stirring the passion and bringing a tear to my eye! What a day! Huw Last Edited By: Dorset Taff 16/03/08 15:07. Edited 1 times.

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