Hi folks. I have been experimenting with ESP Stripteaze braid for hooklinks - not much success on it. Have read lots of the FAQs on braid and hooklinks but
wondered what peoples thoughts were on whether I should strip back the braid before tying a knotless knot or just use it as it is. Does it make a big
difference? Thanks. Chris
Stripping back braid
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Posts: 146 (27/11/07 23:27) |
It is designed to be stripped back, if you don't you are paying a lot of money (£9 - 10 metres) and a may as well use something like Amnesia or heavy nylon
(£2.50 - 100 metres).
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Posts: 239 (27/11/07 23:30) |
Strip it back.
But first do a knotless knot with hair rig loop using mono, tie it up as normal. Then take it off the hook and measure the length where it comes out of the eye of the hook. Strip that amount back, plus a little more for the hair rig loop, from the braid and then repeat - should be near perfect - with a bit of trial and error. Hope this makes sense. 
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Posts: 1621 (27/11/07 23:35) |
I use mono.
Saves me a lot of angst 
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Posts: 1386 (28/11/07 00:00) |
i strip back about 2/5th's of the length and then tie a knotless knot.
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Posts: 188 (28/11/07 07:23) |
If im fishing meat in flood straight on the hook dont strip it back mate. But fishing bollies or pellets i strip it back .
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Posts: 3787 (28/11/07 09:51) BFW Team Member |
I use Sufix Stealthlink and I don't strip it at all
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Rutilus |
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Posts: 147 (28/11/07 10:11) |
For the guys who don't strip back , what is the thinking behind that ?
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Posts: 96 (28/11/07 10:19) |
Thanks folks. Helpful to know. Chris
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Posts: 69 (28/11/07 10:46) |
strip it back enough for the hair and knot, it helps the hook behave more naturally whilist the unstripped is stiff it has good anti tangle properties..
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Posts: 502 (28/11/07 11:27) |
I don't strip it back but I tie a figure of 8 loop and attach my hooklength onto the mainline via a fox quick change swivel. I don't like having the
knot stripped back as I want the hooklink stiff and away from the mainline to help prevent tangles.
Look at the free korda DVD available in most tackle shops and you'll see Danny Fairbrass talking about coated braids and how he ties them and then steams them without stripping back the coating to ensure an extra tight knot. Hope that DVD helps? Paul
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Posts: 204 (28/11/07 16:35) |
i have it so only a few millametres are striped back from the eye of the hook once the rig is tied, along with the hair stripped. means you got a rig that fish
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Posts: 426 (28/11/07 17:37) |
this is how i mostley do mine.
steve
I try to be funny... but sometimes I merely look it 
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Posts: 1388 (28/11/07 18:23) |
yep,thats the way i prefer.
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Posts: 130 (28/11/07 19:22) |
Very arty Steve
I thought you had to strip back to allow the hook to hinge and knots become easier to tie Ross |
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Posts: 97 (28/11/07 21:55) |
Thanks again everyone - really helpful. I've found it easier to tie unstripped but wondered if not stripping it was unhelpful in presentation. Paul - will
try to get hold of the Korda DVD. Cheers. Chris
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Posts: 1094 (28/11/07 22:25) |
Generally I use Fluro, but where I have found coated braids very useful is in rocky swims on rivers such as The Wye, here it provides excellent abraision
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If I do use it, for a change, elsewhere, I strip back about 2-3 ins above the hook and all of the hair and knot (bit trial and error). Check out the Korda Stripping Tool, to save your teeth and nails ! Cheers Paul M........... |
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PJ Martin |
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Posts: 506 (28/11/07 23:18) |
chavender wrote: Exactly the same as what I do Steve, leaving a bit of coated hooklink through the eye of the hook means you can do away with the need for any shrink tube (bent hook style). The only other addition that I have on my hooklink is a couple of blobs of heavy metal tungsten putty. One at the 'hinge' point (swivel side of the red section above the hook eye) and another piece another 4" to 6" above that. My hooklinks tend to be 12" to 15" long generally. Nice artwork by the way. |
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Posts: 1105 (29/11/07 01:22) |
Do we really need this level of sophistication in our rigs to catch barbel?
I use mono for the vast majority of my hooklengths and if I do make the change to braided hooklengths for whatever reason then I use esp sinklink. I manage to fool between one and two hundred barbel a year with those simple tactics but I wonder if perhaps I'm missing a trick here and perhaps getting a bit more 'riggy' would up my average a bit. Any thoughts? |
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Posts: 508 (29/11/07 01:36) |
@ Titus - If it aint broke don't fix it.
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Posts: 3789 (29/11/07 09:12) BFW Team Member |
Personally I think people are thinking too much, and perhaps these thoughts are less applicable to flowing water.
Ok, if you are happy using 'special' rigs then fine, you are not wrong. Me? I don't reckon it's all worth it and I do, like Ade, catch a few fish now and again
Talking to a guy the other day about coated braid. He said he stripped an inch away just above the hook to create a hinge. Why do you want a hinge and what will it do for you in a flowing water I asked. Well, he said (honest guy), now you mention it I'm not sure why, I just thought it was the thing to do. I do strip the coating off of the hair, as I am happier glueing my baits direct to the braid. paul4 ps. The Korda DVD PaulM? is that basically a carp tactic DVD? as I associate DF with carp rather than barbel fishing? |
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