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John Mc 65	New Hardy rods	Lead	[-]
Posts: 115 (16/11/07 19:35) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Tags : None Anyone seen/tried the new Hardy Marksman rods. I picked up a couple of the 11'6'' specimen avons tonight. They certainly look the part, no test curve rating, but i would guess about 1 1/2 pounds. Cant wait for some milder/wet weather now to try them out. They will be replacing my Shimano Antares Specialist 12' 1.6 lb test curves. Regards John.
PJ Martin		#1	[-]
Posts: 472 (16/11/07 22:24) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I know a few who have bought the float rods and the guys love them. Quite pricey at nearly £300 but they look great and are very, very light. Davis tackle has a good selection of them at present.
chavender		#2	[-]
Posts: 414 (16/11/07 22:27) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	no ,but i've got my eye on their new centrepin for my virtual collection steve I try to be funny... but sometimes I merely look it
Paul Boote		#3	[-]
Posts: 1899 (16/11/07 22:55) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	PJ Martin wrote: I know a few who have bought the float rods and the guys love them. Quite pricey at nearly £300 but they look great and are very, very light. Woah! £300? For what is almost certainly a rod of Far Eastern manufacture? Hardy's time-honoured, "big name" magic-mark-up, at work again. For about half the price you can get another super-light, well-finished, very pretty, Far-East-made, superb float rod: the Preston Innovations Sentient. I sat upon the shore Fishing, with the arid plain behind me Shall I at least set my lands in order? T.S. Eliot, The Waste Land (1922)
PJ Martin		#4	[-]
Posts: 474 (16/11/07 23:12) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Paul Boote wrote: PJ Martin wrote: I know a few who have bought the float rods and the guys love them. Quite pricey at nearly £300 but they look great and are very, very light. Woah! £300? For what is almost certainly a rod of Far Eastern manufacture? Hardy's time-honoured, "big name" magic-mark-up, at work again. For about half the price you can get another super-light, well-finished, very pretty, Far-East-made, superb float rod: the Preston Innovations Sentient. Which is strangely enough what I chose to buy instead. Link Although I will say that the Hardy's seemed to be lighter and are great looking rods. Link to Hardy's rods @ Davis tackle Last Edited By: PJ Martin 17/11/07 00:00. Edited 1 times.
davhall		#5	[-]
Posts: 1346 (16/11/07 23:49) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Paul Boote wrote: PJ Martin wrote: I know a few who have bought the float rods and the guys love them. Quite pricey at nearly £300 but they look great and are very, very light. Woah! £300? For what is almost certainly a rod of Far Eastern manufacture? Hardy's time-honoured, "big name" magic-mark-up, at work again. For about half the price you can get another super-light, well-finished, very pretty, Far-East-made, superb float rod: the Preston Innovations Sentient. normark also make nice float rods.
chubbster		#6	[-]
Posts: 219 (17/11/07 10:14) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Jesus H Christ! 300 quid for a rod that doesn't even have triple leg guides.. They are having a laugh. If I was spending £300 on a rod it wouldn't be on one of those.
Linkledger		#7	[-]
Posts: 227 (17/11/07 10:30) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Make you right Chubbster. Triple leg guides are a must on a rod that price - or any rod really the single leg rings are to vulnerable. Would rather spend my money on having a BFW rod built for me to my spec. Doubt it would come to that much but if it did it would be built to my liking.
chubbster		#8	[-]
Posts: 220 (17/11/07 10:51) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I bet the rods are being built by cheap labour for less than £40 each including any export & import charges. Just because a blank is light dosn't mean they are any good. They think that by sticking the name Hardy on a mas produced blank they can charge people anything they want for it. They are just jumping on the bandwagon I'm afraid.
skidlid56		#9	[-]
Posts: 2085 (17/11/07 12:05) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Am a little suprised to see such a well known brand get this sort of panning, as thought they were pretty good, so i live and learn.Most of my rods are fitted with single leg guides,Cept perhaps my 15ft harrison Gti,but have to say never had a problem with em.............yet, touch wood. Anyone know if, Bruce & Walker rods are ok,as waiting for an 11ft avon to arrive,and know little about the company,but was struggling to find,a 1.2 test curve rod for chub,and opted for a BW one,but got it cheaper than cost price. Howard
davhall		#10	[-]
Posts: 1348 (17/11/07 12:26) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	i was speaking to one angler who had a custom made bruce and walker rod from harefield tackle,he said it was the best rod he had ever used....i've never used one.
dr barbus		#11	[-]
Posts: 1155 (17/11/07 12:43) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	skidlid56 wrote: Anyone know if, Bruce & Walker rods are ok,as waiting for an 11ft avon to arrive,and know little about the company,but was struggling to find,a 1.2 test curve rod for chub,and opted for a BW one,but got it cheaper than cost price. TFG X1 River & Stream 11ft, 1.2 Test curve, Quiver and Avon top - lovely light and responsive rod at around £70 (or less - i used a Fishtec offer and got one for £50)- see link -- Dr Barbus Luck defined is when preparation meets opportunity
chubbster		#12	[-]
Posts: 221 (17/11/07 12:58) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	The reason they fit single leg guides is to keep costs down and no other reason, they will tell you that it improves action or it keeps the weight down but all they are doing is pulling the wool over their customers eyes. Ask any good rod builder. I'm not slating the Hardy rod I did give one a waggle in the shop but when I saw the price I was disgusted. At first glance to me it was worth £120 max. If you have money to burn then go and get one but I'll bet anyone a pound to a piece of plop that they is not much difference between them and a any other Barbel rod built on a mass produced far Eastern blank. For £300 You could get a reputable builder like Dave Lump to build you anything you like on a British blank, they would even put your name on it if you want. Then you Can sit on the River in the warm glow knowing that you've help support British industry. Now how much is that worth? Last Edited By: chubbster 17/11/07 13:04. Edited 1 times.
barbeljoe		#13	[-]
Posts: 1675 (17/11/07 13:07) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Have you guys that are slating them even used them? As far as I'm concerned, they are among the best mass produced rods out there, though I personally think that they are a bit overpriced, knock £100 off and that would be a steal. I had a go with the rods (the float rods and quiver rods) just before they came out and have to say that I was impressed - very sensitive with a great amount of feel, plus they are light enough to hold all day. As for this guff about single legged rings, I would always opt for triple/double legged guides on a barbel rod, but not on a float rod. Believe it or not, singles do make it that bit lighter and they do affect the action - this has been said numerous times, remember, the legs on the guides act almost as a splint, so to speak, so the guide used will have a bearing on the rods action. Unless I could get one cheap, I can't afford to shell out over £300, but anyone who does wont be disapointed.
John Mc 65		#14	[-]
Posts: 116 (17/11/07 13:33) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Oh well, ive bought 2 anyway If they serve me half as good as my antares have over the last 6 years I will be more than pleased. You do get an unconditional lifetime guarantee with them, so am no to bothered about how the eyes will cope, cant see me having a problem though. Regards John.
chubbster		#15	[-]
Posts: 222 (17/11/07 13:44) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I said I'm not slating the rod. I'm slating the price they are asking for what is clearly a mass produced rod. John, please don't take my comments the wrong way. You've got a pair of rods that will undoubtedly give you years of great pleasure & that Hardy glow. I just think you've payed a little to much for them, but thats, just my personal opinion. Now get out there and get em dirty.
His miserableness		#16	[-]
Posts: 588 (17/11/07 13:57) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Can't understand all this Bluster about single leg rings, ALL my light rods have singles on them , they live made up in slings and i never have a problem with them, personally i don't like the 'FEEL' of double leg rings on light rods, so i don't have em ! Joe my man, you fishing ??
barbeljoe		#17	[-]
Posts: 1676 (17/11/07 14:15) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Hey Si - you alright fella? Not done as much fishing as I'd like to have (as usual!), though I did a bit on the H.Avon whilst I was working there and managed a few barbel to 10.15, along with a trip to the Test where I managed a load of grayling (nowt big) and hundreds of trout - I've never caught so many in my life! Got a few plans for some big river roach soon, though I'll have to see what happens... How's your season been fishing-wise?
Rutilus		#18	[-]
Posts: 129 (17/11/07 14:30) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	If Hardy have made a marketing error then the rods will start appearing at much reduced prices next year.That may or may not be a problem for Hardy only time will tell.Quite why anyone should get all hot under the collar about it is beyond me. It is not like there is no choice out there.No one is forcing anyone to buy these rods,it is personal choice.Agree with His Miz re singles too, never had a problem with singles be that on factory or custom build rods.Enjoy your rods John.
chubbster		#19	[-]
Posts: 223 (17/11/07 15:19) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I don't think charging 300 quid for a Mas-produced rod could be classed as a "marketing error".
derek2fisherman	hardy rods	#20	[-]
Posts: 385 (17/11/07 15:28) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	hi,yes ive had a play with them,but most of all the thing that impressed me was the colour of them, just like a reed sticking out over the river,being as mine are both martin bowler rods[brown colour] i wont be forking out £300 to change the colour.

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