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 barney11 |
Carryall or Rucksack |
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Posts: 1541 (01/06/05 21:11) |
Decided to get some new luggage but what shall I go for?
Have alway's used a carryall but rucksacks seem very popular nowadays. What do you use and why? may help me with my decision. Cheers Dave |
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bb king |
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Posts: 2212 (01/06/05 21:24) |
Dave,
I used to use a rucksack but always over-filled it. Last season I changed to a Nash Tacklemate carryall. It has three 'speedload' pouches which carry bits'n'tits. I use just one of those now and use the pockets for bait etc. The main section holds a flask, weigh sling, camera, grub etc. This season I will be trying to downsize even more. I have bought a Shimano bum seat which has two pockets which will necessitate being ruthless as to what to take or leave. I have also bought a very small Wychwood Rover holdall for those days when a flask but not much else is the order of the day. The one thing that I have learnt though, buy a big bag and you will fill it (with the heaviest least used bits of tackle ever created). Buy a smaller bag and you'll sort out ONLY that which you need, which in the long term must be lighter and more comfortable which will encourage you to roam the river. Gary |
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ijakk |
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Posts: 2101 (01/06/05 23:31) Banned User |
After many years of failure I have come up with, what for me is the perfect solution. Rod, landing net handle and bank stick are attached to each other with a couple of rod bands. The only other thing I carry is a Nash nomad chair, which can be used as a carryall, you just trap the items you want to carry between the seat and the back rest when folded its all held together with a couple of Velcro straps. Inside the chair are a chub rigger pouch, which holds all my bits and bobs, a flask and my bait bag which has in it some pellets, a couple of pots of hook bait, catapult and pva stocking. Torch or headlight fits in the little pocket where the strap fits into. There is no chance of large items falling out of the side of the chairs, as I thought might be the case before I bought it. Get a Nash nomad they are they badgers tadger it's the best bit of kit i've ever bought.
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bgit |
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Posts: 4690 (02/06/05 07:54)
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Nash Nomad 35 for me - had this for around a year and coupled with the excellent Cotswold Quiver (now in BFW shop) makes lightish but well equipped barbel dangling a possibility.
To travel light I try to analyse what exactly I'm going to need in a session and still go equipped for a week or more! When you look at it drink, weights, bait and leads are the heavies in your rucksack. Add to that a camera, seat etc etc then it's not surprising that the payload can be quite high. The weight of a rucksack with its added bits (pouches etc) can be significant as well, add to that clothing, mat etc then things can still get heavy. I've been toying with one of those vest thingies and dispensing with a rucksack. Cheers Bob |
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wigan stu |
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Posts: 1324 (02/06/05 08:30) |
i accept the overfilling argument of rucksacks , however , i've tryed a standard carryall , tryed it a few times , but on a long walk , the balance is wrong .
at least with the rucky , the weight is in the centre of your back , which i think , in turn , makes the walk easier only my opinion stu 
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bugner |
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Posts: 91 (02/06/05 12:04) |
I was in the same situation as you last year and went down the bag route. Unfortunately I bought a bag for the kit I was taking at the time, rather than a bag for the kit I really needed to take. Having had to lug a big carry all bag around for a few months, I went back to the shop and got a Pro Logic Carry all (there are 2 sizes and I got the smaller one!!).
Having been through what I actually needed to take on a session, including stuff for night fishing, bait, hats & gloves, I knew it would all fit and now I have no problem as the bag is smaller, lighter and makes me think about keeping gear down to a minimum. Its so easy to just keep filling the bag with stuff you hardly ever use or enough bait to sink a small battleship. I have yet to have one evening where Im without something so the advice I would give, is look at what gear you currently take, cut it down and then choose. Tight Lines Andy |
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Barbe1basher |
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Posts: 792 (02/06/05 12:09) |
As for me Im looking for a way to carry the kitchen sink LOL  Brian Do not miss the donut by looking through the hole
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GavinHill |
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Posts: 515 (02/06/05 12:18) |
Rucksack for me. Much more comfotable if you walk any distance. Make sure it's waterproof or has a built in waterproof cover - nothing worse than lugging a rucksack that's twice the normal weight because it and everthing in it is soaked. Combined this with good waterproof clothing and you'll never need a brolly again.
I have the smaller Fox Evolution compact 80ltr. It's on the large size, but a well designed quality piece of kit. Gavin 
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Allan JM |
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Posts: 57 (02/06/05 15:09) |
I have been on a bit of a spend, I have just bought a 55ltr Cotswold rucksack, for the winter when I tend to carry more and a 35ltr Wychwood one for the Summer when I take next to nothing.
Allan
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MOOK |
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Posts: 2100 (02/06/05 16:20) |
 Me well this year l have the TFG Primal quiver and rucksack plus chair...thats me done.. See TFG review Cheers |
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Linkledger |
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Posts: 383 (02/06/05 16:47) |
How much do you really need to catch a Barbel. Most of what I need is in a tiny Fox box and I mean the box that fits inside of the Fox box.
Some swivels, hooks, swanshots a few ledger weights plus some hooklength material.. I have cut down to the absolute minimum. All kept in a waistcoat and bait bucket. Made up rods two in a quiver plus seat. Can be fishing in five minutes and move swims in the same time. As some one has already said buy a big bag and you will fill it up with junk you will never use. And have even got rid of the bag for this season. |
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Andy Norris |
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Posts: 210 (02/06/05 22:07) |
Linkledger,
I agree with you if your on somewhere like the Teme where roaming between swims all day is key, but on waters like the Ribble, I take the Nash Rucksack. I have also got a Chub Carryall but Ive found the rucksack better now as it makes my hands free to carry my rods and chair. I wish I could carry less gear down with me but I always tend to find myself loading up the kitchen sink before each session for some reason! Andy N |
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ijakk |
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Posts: 2101 (02/06/05 22:21) Banned User |
If you need advice on carrying the kitchen sink Mook is the man to ask. I think he puts rocks in his rucksack just to fill in the space either that or there is a family of illegal immigrants living in there, whatever it is its bloody heavy
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barney11 |
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Posts: 1541 (02/06/05 22:27) |
Mook
The TFG Rucksack is the one I am looking at,may just give that one a go. Dave |
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esox |
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Posts: 474 (02/06/05 22:35) |
Hi guys,
I find if i've got space, i've got to fill it. I've had all sorts of carry alls and rucksacks and always carried much more tackle than i actually use just in case i've needed it......i haven't so far. Nowadays, apart from a waistcoat filled with bits n bobs i've now got an 18ltr rucksack that cost me a fiver from go-outdoors which is just about right for me rig wallet,bits box, food and drink. I find the food and drink take up more space than me tackle. Got me quiver for me rods and me landing net and seat go in a net bag with a shoulder strap. This leaves my hands free to carry me bait bucket.....still think i'm taking too much. Cheers Ian.  Roll on the 16th. |
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ijakk |
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Posts: 2101 (02/06/05 22:42) Banned User |
I have a bit of a phobia about rucksacks I always worry that i'll fall on my back and not be able to get up like a tortoise, just arms and legs waving around in the air
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bb king |
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Posts: 2212 (03/06/05 00:58) |
ijak,
From the way you describe MOOKs kut I'm not surprised you have a phobia of 'doing the dying turtle' dance The trick is, during or after a session think about what was ACTUALLY used. My rods are set-up but without leads so the first thing is a lead. Then flask, food, camera (just in case scales, weigh sling. Out of the tackle box I'll use - ready tied hooklength, hooks, swivels, snag-safe links, beads, scissors, hair stops & baiting needle. (Look out for the tiny 'Magic Box' which will accomodate 90% of that in less than the size of a cigarette packet) PVA bags are ready made and a couple of bags of different hookers. When you are at home collect that lot and put it on your kitchen table and see how big/small a bag you really need. Importantly, FEEL CONFIDENT that you can make up a fish catching rig with so few components that you'll not be stuck without the contents of your local tackle emporium. Gary BTW - get it right down and weight/balance etc won't be an issue anyway. |
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MOOK |
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Posts: 2100 (03/06/05 03:54) |
Cheeky sod !!!!!!!! what ijakk forgot to say is l carry all his free offerings...about 5kgs... Well you have to be prepared for every occasion, my bags pretty light now not like last season.. Its what you get used too l suppose, with my bad back l need a chair thats a must.. Dont rove about if there fish in the swim l stay there find it far easier to carry rods , landing nets..fish slings etc in a quiver holdall, than getting everything all wrapped up in bands etc..thats what the sodden things are used for..protection of rods etc.. But as were not walking miles this season l prefer to carry the rucksack and holdall plus chair..comforts the key for me.. What makes up most of the weight in rucksacks..?? 1. leads all sizes and accessories 2. pellets and bait 3. thermos flask..cant go all session without a coffee ! Plus what else is in mine.. Anglers chairmate plus bankstick Tray Camera..for ijakks first barbus !!!! Reel Various tubs for bait Head torch Various licenses Thats it really !!!!!! Not a lot but its mostly what l need !!!!! So come on you lot ...whats in your rucksack ?? Bet its near enough the same.. |
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Andy Norris |
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Posts: 210 (03/06/05 10:02) |
Good Post BBKing.
I may just try your method this weekend and see how I can reduce the weight I carry every week down the river. I make my rods up on the riverbank so I may have to invest in one of those Rod Haldalls that carry made up rods. Has anyone got a good link I can look at to buy one?? Are they expensive?? Cheers, Andy N |
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ijakk |
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Posts: 2101 (03/06/05 10:36) Banned User |
Andy no need mate couple of rod bands does me, cost you about £1.99 for a pair.
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Matt Brown |
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Posts: 1428 (03/06/05 10:36) |
It's taking enough clothing, food and a camera makes things awkward for me.
I've tried taking less clothing but many a time I've ended up cold and wet because I trusted what the weather forcasters said. Consequently, I've reverted to using a rucksack. |
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