I was told by a tackle shop of a large barbel taken from the westdrayton club waters fron a side stream of the colne , it had a hole in its
head , so was nicknamed that name, this barbel was taken about 4 years ago or so , it was removed & taken to the colne at uxbridge possibly gx club waters,
i fished this strech for a number of years until about 6/7 years ago & personaly never saw this barbel but it was well known fish. js..
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Posts: 1848 (18/05/08 11:10) |
     
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Posts: 2348 (18/05/08 11:12) |
"Hole in the head" (I saw a man land it - a good but far from pretty double) once, whilst walking the river with a girlfriend several years ago) did
NOT find its way to any stretch of river - club or free - near Uxbridge. It was almost certainly stolen, and its final destination, I understand, not too
distant from its original home. Very bad show, fish stealing. Great shame to see some "barbel fishers" adopting the shabby,
fish-at-all-costs practices that seem par for the course elsewhere...
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Posts: 1849 (18/05/08 11:15) |
do you mean carp paul, that's a well known underhand practice, just look where them carp went from little britain, put in a well known lake not to far.
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Posts: 103 (18/05/08 15:43) |
why is it when paul boote posts davhall follows is it an eco or what ?, js.........
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Posts: 1852 (18/05/08 15:57) |
i won't post then if that suits you better sir.
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Posts: 595 (19/05/08 07:54) |
If it hasn't left the river system is there anproof of it being stolen? I have some pretty amazing evidence of fish movement on the Hant's Avon &
Dorset Stour that would have many believe the fish were moved by man had they not been tracked very carefully!
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Posts: 104 (19/05/08 08:14) |
davhall , i do apologise if you found what i said ofencive, i never ment it to be ofencive , i just thought you were in some competion or what to post .
js...
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Posts: 105 (19/05/08 08:20) |
Darren There is no way that barbel could swim upstream in the colne there is to many obsticales for it, it just can not pass them. js.....
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Posts: 2352 (19/05/08 08:47) |
I omitted to mention yesterday that in February this year another WD carp-geezer found me one Sunday lunchtime trotting for whatever came along and getting a
bit of fresh air on a non-barbel bit. It soon became clear that he was looking for barbel water. He was a reasonably friendly rough diamond who, after watching
me send a float across to the far bank time and again off a centrepin, began to talk about the river generally, hoping, I sensed, that I might provide him with
a few pieces that he could fit into the whiskery jigsaw that he was working on. I mentioned his home water - WD. He pulled a face. Then he mentioned good old
"Holey" - dead, he reckoned. But then he mentioned sitting having a spl*ff (as such lads often do) the other summer in the far-bank wood and
undergrowth of a certain spot - the very spot where I know she used to live.
Okay, she wouldn't have won a beauty contest, but she at least she was an original, wild, unstocked Colne fish living and somehow still making a living in a bit of water that in the Nineteenth and early Twentieth Centuries drew many a barbel-fisher by train out of London to fish. We trash everything. |
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Posts: 106 (19/05/08 09:07) |
Your saying he said it died in wd water , i was told by the tackle shop they had proof of it being stolen from wd & removed to gx waters, & .. they
said they new the very person who took it. .......js.....
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Posts: 2353 (19/05/08 10:08) |
No. I was saying, both yesterday and a little earlier today, that I believe the fish was stolen. I have very strong doubts about the GX
destination, however. I am a WD member (paid my fifty quid last year not to fish its waters even once, more to put money into the coffers of a hard-pressed
little club - and probably will again this year); I am also a GX member (fished its waters just half-a-dozen times last season, with very modest result, my
attentions been directed to two other stretches of river), I know what gets caught, what's new etc from a member who spends a lot more time on the waters
than I do and who talks to anglers - NEVER, EVER, has "Holey" been mentioned by him or any of them (and it would have been, if it had been caught).
Besides, the vast majority of GX members are simply not the sort to go carting fish around to stock their waters, especially such a readily identifiable fish
as Holey. Okay, some "rogue" member might just possibly have done it, but I have never heard of Holey now being a GX fish. Still, I'll ask my
mate when I see him (other GX members reading this - tell the Committee about what I am about to suggest) to put the word out among members: if Holey does
happen to get caught from GX at any time, the captor should immediately sack it and telephone Don Wilkinson, who, I am certain, will phone the WD Club or
Exchange Tackle, and say: - "We have your fish. Come and get her. Or we could run her over to you."
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Posts: 1853 (19/05/08 10:30) |
jonsul wrote: ok,fair enough. barbel can travel miles but why would a fish who has lived in one area for years all of sudden move miles, i 'm not having that. as for catching that fish in other water,i will putting it back from where i caught it.
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Posts: 2354 (19/05/08 10:45) |
"as for catching that fish in other water,i will putting it back from where i caught it."
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Posts: 75 (19/05/08 10:56) |
Well summed up Paul.
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Posts: 1854 (19/05/08 10:57) |
paul, i'm thinking of the fish's welfare!
moving fish,moving,moving,cannot be good for it, can it??? the most selfish thing is not to consider the above.
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Posts: 596 (19/05/08 11:00) |
jonsul wrote: I have no idea of the obstacles involved but if water can flow down them then fish can generally find a way up.............
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Posts: 597 (19/05/08 11:03) |
davhall wrote:
Fish do the funniest things...............I know of one that did exactly that.....if we could second guess their every move wouldn't it be a tad boring!
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Posts: 107 (19/05/08 11:05) |
Some years ago when i was in wd club i had fond memoruies of fishing the little weir for barbel they used to hide under the concrete sill ,had a stroll along
there & found concrete slab has droped shame that & watched them spawm in the side stream , is yhe little old balif still alive i know he was unwell
for some time, there were some decent size barbel in that side stream. js.........
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Posts: 108 (19/05/08 11:09) |
sorry rushed that & sent without spell check always doing that. js.......
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Posts: 2355 (19/05/08 11:18) |
Problem was, JS, everybody but everybody got to know about the fish, then fished for them at night when club members had gone home. They'd brazenly fish in
the daytime, too. Bailiffing an area like that is a nightmare - you really would need a well-tooled-up ex-Army man to take out some of the gents who feel that
it is their right to fish that bit (and any other waters where they can get away with it) for free, plus take any fish that happens to takes their fancy. In
two words, piscatorial scum.
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