casting to torchlight

Re: casting to torchlight

feeds@yuku.com (Pete Sharpe) — Wed, 21 May 2008 19:38:13 GMT

I think your attitude is probably influenced by whenever it was that you first started fishing. I can remember fishing a five-acre pit in the 1970s, when if somebody had the nerve even to light up a cigarette at night, you would hear a chorus from around the pit of "Oi - put that f*cking light out". That was obviously a bit extreme, but your ability to bait up or even tie a hook in total darkness was seen as a test of your carp fishing credentials. It was all completely over the...

Re: casting to torchlight

feeds@yuku.com (barbuscluelus) — Wed, 21 May 2008 18:53:10 GMT

much as it get on my man boobs when someone starts up the laser show with his headlight, I wonder if such a low powered light would penatrate to much depth on most rivers, some of the light would be reflected off the surface and the rest would be scattered by particles in the water I imagine.

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feeds@yuku.com (Gaskes) — Wed, 21 May 2008 15:44:35 GMT

What about using PVA foam, has anybody tried that ?

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feeds@yuku.com (Ian Grant) — Wed, 21 May 2008 15:32:45 GMT

I've done a similar sort of thing using the nobby from a sliced loaf Angie, but that only works near bank, brilliant when you want to get it right under an overhanging tree, and there's too much streamer weed in midstream, just put your bait on top and let it drift down then just hold back and it drops off, i use a piece of expanded wheat or a piece of the bread to cover the point to stop it catching on the bread.

ATB
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Re: casting to torchlight

feeds@yuku.com (derek2fisherman) — Wed, 21 May 2008 12:19:22 GMT

hi,well ime glad there is no night fishing where i go,but used to in the carp days.but i found that the nights where never that dark when you couldnt see what you was doing.you can sort everthing out before it gets dark,even the length of cast where you want the bait to be,i think some anglers must be a bit scared of the dark,and the forces of nature.

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feeds@yuku.com (Angie Iamarat) — Wed, 21 May 2008 12:04:51 GMT

I read this post with interest because years ago my dad used to clip a small baloon to his line and throw it in the river allowing it to drift into position then tugging it free when it was were he wanted it to be. He was able to do this with good position even in the dark and quietly without scaring the fish. My ex boyfriend try this on the river Ouse last summer and people laughed at him i am sure. He caught a Barbel after 20 minutes however under a bush in the darl, so they probably not...

Re: casting to torchlight

feeds@yuku.com (Ian Grant) — Wed, 21 May 2008 11:46:12 GMT

Pete, now i find myself agreeing with you, if you had written your last post first, i wouldn't have got so tetchy.
Given the area i fish, - and i'd have to drive a long way to get dead peace & quiet - i suppose my tolerance to these things is probably greater than yours. There are times though on venues that i can fish all night when it almost gets to the point of being idyllic, when the fireworks have gone and the traffic has died down, even so there is always the rumble of...

Re: casting to torchlight

feeds@yuku.com (skidlid56) — Wed, 21 May 2008 08:35:23 GMT

When i was a kid,about 14 years old,used to sit all night on the local pond float fishing for Tench,shining my bike lamp on the float.Caught loads doing this,so certain that it dont bovver the fish one iota.Never bovvered any other anglers either,as no one else there.
Nowadays only use headlight for baiting up,or landing a fish,and wouldent be a happy chappy if someone on the opposite bank was shining his light all night long.Though as long as he wernt stamping around,probably wouldent...

Re: casting to torchlight

feeds@yuku.com (Pete Sharpe) — Wed, 21 May 2008 08:00:56 GMT

The big difference Ian, is that you know exactly what to expect before you set off and choose to fish there regardless. There's nothing worse than settling into a remote swim, enjoying the feeling of being at one with the night, when suddenly a "noddy" appears to spoil it all by flashing lights around every time he casts. I'm beginning to wonder if for many people, the magic of night fishing has been lost and they want to turn it into an extended daytime session. Seeing how...

Re: casting to torchlight

feeds@yuku.com (harry chubb) — Wed, 21 May 2008 07:39:04 GMT

Intresting thoughts there-I,d never dream of shining lights on rivers while there,s anglers on opposite bank. Some hotspots as we all know are often tight casts between trees or close to far bank reeds where a beam on the river would be an obvious advantage but as I said not happy with lighting up river at any angle. I suppose I was looking for an answer that light had no effect on barbel at night. I expect it,s a confidence thing, i.e. once you,v caught doing it, no problem. As for fishing...

Re: casting to torchlight

feeds@yuku.com (Ian Grant) — Wed, 21 May 2008 01:23:28 GMT

I'd guess 95% of my fishing at night is done without the need to use my headtorch, there are times though when i feel the need to risk it. You'll never find me fishing anywhere close to another angler on the opposite bank, and if one moves in ( impossible in many of the areas i fish anyway ) i'll up sticks, and move. Considering in the areas i fish there are firework displays every week that would have to come close to the noise and illumination of a WW1 battlefield, these carry...

Re: casting to torchlight

feeds@yuku.com (Pete Sharpe) — Tue, 20 May 2008 22:26:20 GMT

dik30 wrote:
@ pete sharpe, although i think i understood your first 2 posts well enough i still have to say that your 3rd is absolutely spot on hugh great post

KIP

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feeds@yuku.com (Donkey Choker) — Tue, 20 May 2008 21:39:36 GMT

If you`re going to use a torch to cast after dark, something I don`t think is neccessary personally as once your eyes have adjusted to the lack of light your night vision should be sufficient, the key is keep the light source as low to the water as possible. Parrallel to the waters surface being best as the light penetrates the least and shouldn`t spook the fish, definately pee off anyone on the opposite bank though!

Mic

Re: casting to torchlight

feeds@yuku.com (dougalz) — Tue, 20 May 2008 21:36:45 GMT

Its funny how, no matter what the light level, more often than not, your average barbel angler wants, for some strange reason, to cast to the far bank?

I like just a teeny swing and PLOP. The torch comes on if that big fish comes along.

It is amazing how, if you avoid the torch altogether, you can start to see- and it seems to take me an hour to get tuned- as it were.

As for spooking fish- as Uncle Ade mentioned- carp in clear canals are completely "Am I...

Re: casting to torchlight

feeds@yuku.com (dik30) — Tue, 20 May 2008 21:31:58 GMT

@ pete sharpe, although i think i understood your first 2 posts well enough i still have to say that your 3rd is absolutely spot on hugh great post

Re: casting to torchlight

feeds@yuku.com (Pete Sharpe) — Tue, 20 May 2008 21:03:42 GMT

Or even "carrots have should eaten your"

There are a couple of points worth mentioning. Firstly, it is unwise to attempt to fish a swim at night that you haven't already fished in daylight. If you have previously fished it, you should have acquired a "memory" of the amount of force used in the cast and the amount of time it takes for the lead to hit the water. With a bit...

Re: casting to torchlight

feeds@yuku.com (Mr Chubbly Warner) — Tue, 20 May 2008 20:22:21 GMT

re-arrange these words......:-

carrots of should eaten your

Re: casting to torchlight

feeds@yuku.com (Pete Sharpe) — Tue, 20 May 2008 20:00:45 GMT

Perhaps should amend that to say "If you need a torch to cast at night when there is anybody else on the water who will see it flashing about, then you shouldn't be going night fishing at all"

Is that better?

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feeds@yuku.com (Ian Grant) — Tue, 20 May 2008 19:44:51 GMT

If you need to use a torch to cast at night, you shouldn't be going night fishing at all.

It's probably going to be a very very long time before i read anything as stupid as that again

ATB
Ian...

Re: casting to torchlight

feeds@yuku.com (Titus Aducas) — Tue, 20 May 2008 08:47:47 GMT

I have to use a torch for rebaiting because I can't see what I'm doing without it, I always turn it off for casting though.
If I'm casting to a feature I normally find the length and mark the line, (stop knot or tape, whatever you prefer), I can then clip up and cast with confidence to a pre chosen far bank, or even horizon, profile and know that when the line hits the clip I'm in the right area, don't forget to unclip after casting though..

P.S. Imo...

casting to torchlight

feeds@yuku.com (harry chubb) — Mon, 19 May 2008 09:31:47 GMT

I dare say everyone knows what I,m on about here. A lot of anglers after dark shine there headtorches on to the river and cast directly into the spot lit up(normally far bank). I,v always tried to avoid light over the river but after spotting one barbel celeb. doing it last season with a really bright beam I,m wondering how much damage it does.I dare say this isn,t the first post on this, but what opinions out there ATB Harry.