Red Line ?? http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/topic/11006/t/Red-Line-.html en-us Copyright 2006, Yuku feeds@yuku.com (FeedMaster) webmaster@yuku.com (WebMaster) Fri, 09 Feb 2007 22:00:21 GMT Wed, 11 Apr 2007 16:21:36 GMT Yuku Feeds 1.0 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss 60 Yuku http://static.yuku.com//feed/bypass/images/button-yuku.png http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/topic/11006/t/Red-Line-.html Yuku - free hosted forums and profiles 88 31 {pics-1.1 "http://www.icra.org/ratingsv02.html" l gen true for "http://yuku.com" r (nz 1 vz 1 lz 1 oz 1 cz 1 ) "http://www.rsac.org/ratingsv01.html" l gen true for "http://yuku.com" r (n 0 s 0 v 0 l 0 )) Search Search Domain q http://yuku.com/search/direct/ <![CDATA[ Re: Red Line ?? ]]> http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/reply/160255/t/Red-Line-.html#reply-160255 feeds@yuku.com (paul12345) http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/sreply/160255 Wed, 11 Apr 2007 16:21:36 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Red Line ?? ]]> http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/reply/160254/t/Red-Line-.html#reply-160254
Personally I think the trick is to keep your... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (NoddyT) http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/sreply/160254 Wed, 11 Apr 2007 16:11:22 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Red Line ?? ]]> http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/reply/160253/t/Red-Line-.html#reply-160253
I don't buy this red line thing either.
I do quite a lot of scuba diving and, as you all know, red is the first colour you lose after about 15 feet or so. But rather than becoming 'invisible', I can confirm that it DOES become black. So wouldn't that be MORE visible???

Interestingly, my friend cut himself on a wreck we were diving on, and his blood was dark green! feeds@yuku.com (Splint123) http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/sreply/160253 Wed, 11 Apr 2007 15:54:20 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Red Line ?? ]]> http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/reply/160252/t/Red-Line-.html#reply-160252
This article is quite interesting - compares the visual systems of fish and humans - needs PowerPoint...

www.cs.rit.edu/~rsg/FishV...Group2.ppt


C.
"Study to be Quiet"
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Been back through some threads, any idea how rescent ??


faq / line / The end of Fluro? (from Archive 40)

paul4 ]]> feeds@yuku.com (paul4barbus) http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/sreply/160251 Sun, 11 Feb 2007 23:42:31 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Red Line ?? ]]> http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/reply/160250/t/Red-Line-.html#reply-160250
the point I'm making is that if, as a viewer, you are watching a guy playing a fish and you can't see the line (which in coarse fishing is part of the line design, not so important at sea) then it takes away some of the visual 'keys' you need to understand and appreciate the action.

so perhaps some of the fishing is done with the bright line, and no doubt fish caught with it, to ensure good visuals on the tv. but it may be that, to get the good catches, line that is... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (medwaydan) http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/sreply/160250 Sun, 11 Feb 2007 23:33:14 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Red Line ?? ]]> http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/reply/160249/t/Red-Line-.html#reply-160249
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I would imagine that for good tv, matt would use knicker elastic if necessary! doesn't mean that that's what he uses to catch the fish for the programme though, or even that the knicker elastic is his own.


So what you are saying is that when he his shown playing a fish in on yellow line, he isn't actually as this is all made up for the cameras. Oh I get it there must be... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (D Wingfield) http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/sreply/160249 Sun, 11 Feb 2007 00:08:00 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Red Line ?? ]]> http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/reply/160248/t/Red-Line-.html#reply-160248
It is other factors which may put them off but don't kid yourself that fish can not see your tackle.

Cahal ]]> feeds@yuku.com (morston) http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/sreply/160248 Sat, 10 Feb 2007 23:33:42 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Red Line ?? ]]> http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/reply/160247/t/Red-Line-.html#reply-160247
cheers Rob
]]> feeds@yuku.com (robbo 06) http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/sreply/160247 Sat, 10 Feb 2007 21:08:25 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Red Line ?? ]]> http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/reply/160246/t/Red-Line-.html#reply-160246
I don't think anyone is saying fish can't see red - quite the reverse. personally swear by red maggits.

the gist of the thread is that the line companies are saying that red line 'disappears' in water, since red is absorbed quicker than other colours.

what we are suggesting is that, yes, the red eventually is scattered or absorbed, but that doesn't leave nothing - it leaves black.

so red line doesn't disappear, it becomes black line.

in the... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (medwaydan) http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/sreply/160246 Sat, 10 Feb 2007 21:04:22 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Red Line ?? ]]> http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/reply/160245/t/Red-Line-.html#reply-160245 :rolleyes im not convinced with this red line fad either. ive fish red corn over the top of yellow corn and had bites instantly and used yellow corn and had few bites so why would the fish pick an "invisable" bait to one that they can see. feeds@yuku.com (robbo 06) http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/sreply/160245 Sat, 10 Feb 2007 20:58:23 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Red Line ?? ]]> http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/reply/160244/t/Red-Line-.html#reply-160244
I would imagine that for good tv, matt would use knicker elastic if necessary! doesn't mean that that's what he uses to catch the fish for the programme though, or even that the knicker elastic is his own.

tv is tv - it ain't fishin'.

if he's making a programme, he'll do what is necessary to make good tv. if, like us, he gets a day on the bank for his own pleasure, he'll use what works. ]]> feeds@yuku.com (medwaydan) http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/sreply/160244 Sat, 10 Feb 2007 20:53:17 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Red Line ?? ]]> http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/reply/160243/t/Red-Line-.html#reply-160243
Black Dacron with budgie bells attatched at 2 foot intervals does the job. Barbel hear the bells jingling and come for a look-see. What on Earth's that, they wonder having never seen or heard budgie bells before. Then they spot the hook bait and think, "Might as well have a bite to eat whilst I'm trying to suss out what this contraption is". Bingo. Fish every time.

Or you could believe everything Matt thingie tells you?

Regards,

Lee. ]]> feeds@yuku.com (trentbarbeler) http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/sreply/160243 Sat, 10 Feb 2007 19:40:10 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Red Line ?? ]]> http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/reply/160242/t/Red-Line-.html#reply-160242
That is one of the most sensible posts to appear on BFW for a long while, the tackle companies won't agree with you though.

click here for more info on red line

Matt Hayes also uses yellow line quite a lot as well on the tele.

Best Regards
Dave ]]> feeds@yuku.com (D Wingfield) http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/sreply/160242 Sat, 10 Feb 2007 13:14:41 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Red Line ?? ]]> http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/reply/160241/t/Red-Line-.html#reply-160241
However majoirty of predator fish must be able to see red to know if the fish is bleeding not, example of this is putting red wool/flossy stuff on the hook on lures. ]]> feeds@yuku.com (fredrickmore) http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/sreply/160241 Sat, 10 Feb 2007 12:44:10 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Red Line ?? ]]> http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/reply/160240/t/Red-Line-.html#reply-160240
the 'cloudiness' is probably more apparent to us, since the opacity and dark bottom coupled with refraction at the surface boundary, cause a mirror effect, reducing our ability to see down into the water. polarising lenses cut this down some. looking up through the water towards the light is much easier.

consider the perceived difference in water visibility between a swimming pool and garden pond, even... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (medwaydan) http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/sreply/160240 Sat, 10 Feb 2007 11:59:45 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Red Line ?? ]]> http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/reply/160239/t/Red-Line-.html#reply-160239
They see it but they don't know what it is.

Fish spend much of their lives eating tiny creatures which we would have a job to see. These creatures are better camouflaged than any tackle we might use (in spite of our efforts to disguise it).

Just have a look at the stomach contents of any fish feeds@yuku.com (morston) http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/sreply/160239 Sat, 10 Feb 2007 11:35:15 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Red Line ?? ]]> http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/reply/160238/t/Red-Line-.html#reply-160238 feeds@yuku.com (His miserableness) http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/sreply/160238 Sat, 10 Feb 2007 10:59:22 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Red Line ?? ]]> http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/reply/160237/t/Red-Line-.html#reply-160237
I believe that red line loses its colour at around 15 feet depth... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Chris Plumb) http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/sreply/160237 Sat, 10 Feb 2007 10:17:42 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Red Line ?? ]]> http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/reply/160236/t/Red-Line-.html#reply-160236
firstly, we see line in the water looking down - ie with the light source (sun/sky) behind us. hence what we see of the line is reflected light bouncing back to us from the line's surface/core. any colour we see in the line is caused by that colour being preferentially reflected by the line's chemistry, and its interaction with the optics of the... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (medwaydan) http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/sreply/160236 Sat, 10 Feb 2007 03:21:29 GMT <![CDATA[ Red Line ?? ]]> http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/topic/11006/t/Red-Line-.html :rolleyes ]]> feeds@yuku.com (rb) http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/topic/11006 Fri, 09 Feb 2007 22:00:21 GMT