Bait-making query http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/topic/10534/t/Bait-making-query.html en-us Copyright 2006, Yuku feeds@yuku.com (FeedMaster) webmaster@yuku.com (WebMaster) Mon, 18 Dec 2006 13:07:39 GMT Mon, 18 Dec 2006 22:18:11 GMT Yuku Feeds 1.0 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss 60 Yuku http://static.yuku.com//feed/bypass/images/button-yuku.png http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/topic/10534/t/Bait-making-query.html Yuku - free hosted forums and profiles 88 31 {pics-1.1 "http://www.icra.org/ratingsv02.html" l gen true for "http://yuku.com" r (nz 1 vz 1 lz 1 oz 1 cz 1 ) "http://www.rsac.org/ratingsv01.html" l gen true for "http://yuku.com" r (n 0 s 0 v 0 l 0 )) Search Search Domain q http://yuku.com/search/direct/ <![CDATA[ Re: Bait-making query ]]> http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/reply/152579/t/Bait-making-query.html#reply-152579 feeds@yuku.com (Paul Boote) http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/sreply/152579 Mon, 18 Dec 2006 22:18:11 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Bait-making query ]]> http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/reply/152578/t/Bait-making-query.html#reply-152578
I disagree with Bob when he said Egg Albumen won't make your bait hard, it will. Damned hard if you add 2 ounce to a pound dry mix. However, this tends to dry the mix out once mixed into a paste prior to rolling to have a poly bag ready to pop the paste into before rolling as this stops it from drying out quickly.

Small amounts of casein? The very best available is glycerphosphated rennet (spelling) which retains all its vitamins and minerals during processing.... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (trentbarbeler) http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/sreply/152578 Mon, 18 Dec 2006 21:43:18 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Bait-making query ]]> http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/reply/152577/t/Bait-making-query.html#reply-152577 - She was not impressed to find the cat food cupboard bare either :evil
- The Cats did not mind as they ended up eating chicken livers (and all the rest of the bits).
- They then turned their noses at tinned cat food.
That upset the dogs as they used to howl when it was being cooked.
And apparently it was all my fault
- Rod Hutchinson has... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (dr barbus) http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/sreply/152577 Mon, 18 Dec 2006 21:33:16 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Bait-making query ]]> http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/reply/152576/t/Bait-making-query.html#reply-152576 I would guess that your chilli covering would soak off.
See Hinders site for guide to particles at
www.hinders.co.uk/Default...adindex.28
-- Dr Barbus
There's a world of difference between waiting and sitting.
]]> feeds@yuku.com (dr barbus) http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/sreply/152576 Mon, 18 Dec 2006 21:31:34 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Bait-making query ]]> http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/reply/152575/t/Bait-making-query.html#reply-152575 feeds@yuku.com (Paul Boote) http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/sreply/152575 Mon, 18 Dec 2006 21:14:57 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Bait-making query ]]> http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/reply/152574/t/Bait-making-query.html#reply-152574 feeds@yuku.com (bewdley2) http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/sreply/152574 Mon, 18 Dec 2006 21:10:07 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Bait-making query ]]> http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/reply/152573/t/Bait-making-query.html#reply-152573 Nutragel I think is Nutrabaits sourced Whey Gel.
Used both to ensure rubbery skin on baits that are to be boiled for short periods.
Both good for that and do not detract from whatever else is in your bait mix, and allow softer interiors.
The granite additive (used that too) is like casein30 (and that) in that the bait becomes firm all the way through.

-- silly answer ---
Alternatively you could use my very first ever boilie recipe
Yellow... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (dr barbus) http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/sreply/152573 Mon, 18 Dec 2006 20:54:14 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Bait-making query ]]> http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/reply/152572/t/Bait-making-query.html#reply-152572
Never leave home without the stuff, John. So useful, I find, to "accidentally" drop on the ground near well-known swims on more pressured fisheries. Great to give away, as "not bad, this, but don't pass it around..." to fellow-fishers, too...


Thanks for the advice, everyone. ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Paul Boote) http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/sreply/152572 Mon, 18 Dec 2006 19:57:03 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Bait-making query ]]> http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/reply/152571/t/Bait-making-query.html#reply-152571 :o :o :o feeds@yuku.com (thisisjohn) http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/sreply/152571 Mon, 18 Dec 2006 19:03:06 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Bait-making query ]]> http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/reply/152570/t/Bait-making-query.html#reply-152570 Cheers
Bob ]]> feeds@yuku.com (bgit) http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/sreply/152570 Mon, 18 Dec 2006 18:55:37 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Bait-making query ]]> http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/reply/152569/t/Bait-making-query.html#reply-152569
Andy ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Andy Davies) http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/sreply/152569 Mon, 18 Dec 2006 18:42:58 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Bait-making query ]]> http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/reply/152568/t/Bait-making-query.html#reply-152568 ;) ....j.w ]]> feeds@yuku.com (thisisjohn) http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/sreply/152568 Mon, 18 Dec 2006 18:35:17 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Bait-making query ]]> http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/reply/152567/t/Bait-making-query.html#reply-152567
I don't think Paul has a problem binding his bait together.
From what I can gather, he boils his baits for a very short period of time so that the bait is skinned and the inside is soft. This would allow for maximum attractiveness and high solubility without denaturing the bait with excessive boiling times - which can also make the bait float, of course.
I think Paul wants something that will harden the baits and still keep boiling times to a minimum.

I know... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Splint123) http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/sreply/152567 Mon, 18 Dec 2006 18:25:51 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Bait-making query ]]> http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/reply/152566/t/Bait-making-query.html#reply-152566
Be carfull what you add to your bait as may make it worse than what you have now.
It would be very difficult to suggest any one thing as I dont know the ingrediants your useing, as a good starting point I would look at why it is not binding together could be many factors'
Im not telling you what to use but why not go back to a company that sell bait mixes then just add your own smells and bits n pieces.
good luck with it,if your still strugling pm' me and may... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (barbelgirl123) http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/sreply/152566 Mon, 18 Dec 2006 17:13:03 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Bait-making query ]]> http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/reply/152565/t/Bait-making-query.html#reply-152565 :rollin ]]> feeds@yuku.com (PJ Martin) http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/sreply/152565 Mon, 18 Dec 2006 16:53:27 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Bait-making query ]]> http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/reply/152564/t/Bait-making-query.html#reply-152564 feeds@yuku.com (Paul Boote) http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/sreply/152564 Mon, 18 Dec 2006 14:50:50 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Bait-making query ]]> http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/reply/152563/t/Bait-making-query.html#reply-152563
Whey Gel
Whey Concentrate
Egg Albumen

CLO or equivalent will aid binding and skinning.
Vitamealo (Calf Milk Replacer) will aid skinning and binding.

The first three have no overt smell (to us), CLO is essentially a ground mixture of birdseeds, but Vitamealo has a ice cream type smell.

Whey gel or Whey concentrate are probably your best bets. Egg Albumen... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (bgit) http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/sreply/152563 Mon, 18 Dec 2006 13:58:07 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Bait-making query ]]> http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/reply/152562/t/Bait-making-query.html#reply-152562
if you let me have the recipe, I will quite happily make some up and let you know how it works!:rollin
To be old and wise, first you have to be young and stupid!
]]> feeds@yuku.com (paraman) http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/sreply/152562 Mon, 18 Dec 2006 13:40:29 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Bait-making query ]]> http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/reply/152561/t/Bait-making-query.html#reply-152561 feeds@yuku.com (Paul Boote) http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/sreply/152561 Mon, 18 Dec 2006 13:26:01 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Bait-making query ]]> http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/reply/152560/t/Bait-making-query.html#reply-152560
If this isn't an option (some clever additives will start to dissolve a bait after reaching a certain temperature), then trying adding Nutrabaits' Nutragel or Granite Mix. Go easy on the granite mix in two egg... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (paraman) http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/sreply/152560 Mon, 18 Dec 2006 13:17:06 GMT <![CDATA[ Bait-making query ]]> http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/topic/10534/t/Bait-making-query.html
I have two very good baits going at present, simple affairs but with one or two additions that make them work, both instantly and over the long haul. I use them both boiled / steamed and as pastes.

I want to feed a few bits of water with the boiled baits, in very small quantities after Christmas, with a view to having a fish in the areas late Feb - mid March. Both baits go firm enough for an hour or so's fishing... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Paul Boote) http://barbelfishingworld.yuku.com/topic/10534 Mon, 18 Dec 2006 13:07:39 GMT